Announcing TALES FROM THE FAR TERRITORY

[Karl Grylls]

Shovel could be used to move large amounts of snow

[RossBondReturns]

24 minutes ago, Karl Grylls said:

Shovel could be used to move large amounts of snow

This reminds me of something on my wish list.

Digging our way back into bases after being away for extended periods.

[Luca Loquax]

It could be used to turn Fluffy into a shovelhead. 

[A Lamp]

16 hours ago, Karl Grylls said:

Shovel could be used to move large amounts of snow

Or to bury frozen corpses. You know, for paying respect or getting them out of your safehouse.

Maybe it could be one of the safehouse customization features?

[stratvox]

19 hours ago, GeneralJConnor said:

This reminds me of something on my wish list.

Digging our way back into bases after being away for extended periods.

Yeah, I think a way of modelling snowfall and the need to clear snow would be really cool, and could lend itself to some seriously interesting long term play effects... after all, if it never melts snow will only ever get deeper. 

I did some looking into this, and in particular about accurately modelling snow drifts. The math is very very hairy; most of the relevant work has been done in the pursuit of modelling sand dunes but the state of the art is not super stateful. The idea I had was to pick a basic number (say 1m) and use it to model the amount of snowfall and then use some of the dune math to figure out snowdrifts, but the thing is that terrain and wind speed and direction during snowfall are super relevant, and the complexity of the math goes up very very quickly... like exponentially quickly. I kind of suspect that Hinterland may have looked into this and realised that it's not really viable to try and model this; you could probably come up with something, but anyone who knows snow will immediately know that it's not even close to realistic.

While there are many unrealistic aspects to the game (for example, bears are MUCH MUCH better at climbing trees than humans are; shooting a bear from a fallen tree is asking to get snacked upon), the weather effects are absolutely spot on, and I think they figured they couldn't do it without blowing the suspension of disbelief that is absolutely required for this game, which I view as being a piece of (Canadian!) art as much as a survival game.

[RossBondReturns]

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=541762784626120&set=a.480421820760217

 

New Flora and FAUNA in the new Territory!

Edited November 16, 2022 by GeneralJConnor

[UpUpAway95]

On 11/14/2022 at 3:45 PM, mayimbe said:

I would like to know why you say that the shovel would not work on frozen ground, truckers working in northern canada use shovels when the trailer is buried in the ground, and in yakutia with temperatures up to 40 below zero they have no problems to use the shovel to clear paths and they even grow their own vegetables, so digging up roots with a shovel shouldn't be a problem.

I would bet they are just using the shovel to dig out the snow that they are stuck in, not the ground itself.  Our growing season outside of a heated greenhouse in Alberta, Canada is basically limited to summer (planting of gardens traditionally occurs around the end of May - that is after the ground has thawed sufficient to enable digging with a shovel).  Large excavations use specialize equipment (frost ripper) in order to dig frozen ground in winter (in order to dig basements and foundations for homes and buildings in winter, for example). 

Edited November 16, 2022 by UpUpAway95

[Ghurcb]

3 hours ago, GeneralJConnor said:

and FAUNA

Now that it's obvious that Hinterland are going to add boars to the game, I'm wondering what they will be used for. Boar hides are tough, so they might be useful for protection. Boar hide gauntlets, maybe? Perhaps travois is made out of it? 

[RossBondReturns]

55 minutes ago, Ghurcb said:

Now that it's obvious that Hinterland are going to add boars to the game, I'm wondering what they will be used for. Boar hides are tough, so they might be useful for protection. Boar hide gauntlets, maybe? Perhaps travois is made out of it? 

I'm thinking we'll actually be meeting the Cougar myself. Raphael has been wanting to add a Cougar for a while.

[Arbor]

Boars would be fun! Scary, but rewarding. And I think they'd fit that scenery well

[Leeanda]

Even though I couldn't read that link I'm guessing there's a hint at a new beastie?   I'm hoping it's a cougar😊

[Kranium]

cougar, and squirrels (because acorns)

[Mistral]

Regarding the oaks, I hope there's oak forest and not just individual trees here and there... I always thought the game lacked a good proper birch forest for example. Aside from moderately sized one in PV, the other ones are very minor and rare

[Karl Grylls]

14 hours ago, Ghurcb said:

Now that it's obvious that Hinterland are going to add boars to the game

Why is it "obvious" that boars are coming? What is the source that you are getting your information from?

[Arbor]

11 hours ago, Leeanda said:

Even though I couldn't read that link I'm guessing there's a hint at a new beastie?   I'm hoping it's a cougar😊

Here's a twitter link if that helps:
 

 

[Leeanda]

Just now, Arbor said:

Here's a twitter link if that helps:
 

 

Thank you😊.    

Cougars!!!!!😁

[RossBondReturns]

1 minute ago, Leeanda said:

Thank you😊.    

Cougars!!!!!😁

Will always be my vote.

But there's no hints anywhere about what it might be...so who knows where boars cam from.

At least we know Raphael has since way back in 2015 stated his hopefulness/plans to place Cougars in the game.

[Leeanda]

28 minutes ago, GeneralJConnor said:

Will always be my vote.

But there's no hints anywhere about what it might be...so who knows where boars cam from.

At least we know Raphael has since way back in 2015 stated his hopefulness/plans to place Cougars in the game.

I think someone put them on the wish list about a year ago and it seemed a pretty popular idea.  But cougars or rumours of them have been here a lot longer so it'd be great to have them.  

Personally I'd like something like geese too .the challenge of hunting something that flies appeals to me a lot and as much as I like shooting those crows,(albeit pointlessly)I'd like at least a few pounds of meat off them.😊

Edited November 16, 2022 by Leeanda
Autocorrect has done it again!!!!

[Luca Loquax]

BEER: minus 15 days till December!

[stratvox]

16 hours ago, Arbor said:

Boars would be fun! Scary, but rewarding. And I think they'd fit that scenery well

They would not. They are not a fauna of that part of the world. Mountain lions/cougar/puma? Absolutely. Kermode and Grizzly bears? Yup (and the grizzlies'll make you mark your shorts). Woodland Caribou? I'd love a version of the game that ditched the deer and replaced them with caribou, which are native to that area. Boars? Nope, no boars up there. Sorry.

Edited November 16, 2022 by stratvox
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[bascolais]

On 10/21/2022 at 12:21 AM, Hawk said:

 

What about folks that bought TLD at GoG. Will we have to buy the game again at Steam to get the release discount?

hi, I expect good news on that, gog had always the updates, so I cross my fingers

Edited November 16, 2022 by bascolais
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[Ghurcb]

8 hours ago, Karl Grylls said:

Why is it "obvious" that boars are coming? What is the source that you are getting your information from?

Okay, maybe it's not all that obvious...

22 hours ago, GeneralJConnor said:

Cougar

20 hours ago, Leeanda said:

I'm hoping it's a cougar😊

8 hours ago, Leeanda said:

Cougars!!!!!😁

8 hours ago, GeneralJConnor said:

Cougars

And maybe I'm wrong. It's just that with the addition of acorns, boars seem like an obvious pick. And if Hinterland were to add mountain lions, I'd rather have them be stealthy hunters. Boars would be easier to implement in that regard. Also, I can see some obvious uses for boar hides (leather armor), while I'm not sure what special characteristics the clothes made of cougar could have.

[Grey0blivion]

2 hours ago, Ghurcb said:

Okay, maybe it's not all that obvious...

And maybe I'm wrong. It's just that with the addition of acorns, boars seem like an obvious pick. And if Hinterland were to add mountain lions, I'd rather have them be stealthy hunters. Boars would be easier to implement in that regard. Also, I can see some obvious uses for boar hides (leather armor), while I'm not sure what special characteristics the clothes made of cougar could have.

I got an idea for what the cougars use could be. So you kill the cougar and it should yield the hide, meat, cougar fang, and cougar claw. You can use the cougar fang as a material to make this makeshift necklace that can work as an accessory giving some kind of benefit. For Ex: +10% Stealth against Predators making them harder at detecting you or move +5% faster while crouching.

[RossBondReturns]

3 hours ago, Ghurcb said:

Okay, maybe it's not all that obvious...

And maybe I'm wrong. It's just that with the addition of acorns, boars seem like an obvious pick. And if Hinterland were to add mountain lions, I'd rather have them be stealthy hunters. Boars would be easier to implement in that regard. Also, I can see some obvious uses for boar hides (leather armor), while I'm not sure what special characteristics the clothes made of cougar could have.

Oh Raphael plans to have his Cougars be stealthy Hunters.

As for what benefits the clothing would have. That's up to Hinterland...but I wouldn't at all be surprised if the were lightweight but still tough...and helped in your own stealth/hunting game play.

Also, would totally laugh if it was like a Wolverine instead and we're all wrong.

[xanna]

3 hours ago, Grey0blivion said:

You can use the cougar fang as a material to make this makeshift necklace that can work as an accessory giving some kind of benefit. For Ex: +10% Stealth against Predators making them harder at detecting you or move +5% faster while crouching.

Sorry to say, I don't like this idea. The benefits we get from other clothing is all pretty plausible for our realistic-but-simplified universe (aurorae notwithstanding), but this has more of a feel of a magic amulet or artefact from a fantasy game. There's no connection between wearing a necklace and becoming more agile or more stealthy. The most special effect we get from clothing right now is scaring wildlife, and I have no idea how 'real' that is, but at least I can draw a line from wearing a wolf's murdered head on my belly and unsettling the wolves around me.

I do like the idea of getting animal products other than guts and hides, though.