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I was brain wrecked to find an idea how to make voyager challenging for someone who lives on roots. At least your first 30 days on map 1 will be full of luxury. Does this mean during your first 30 days you intend to find a rifle and make a bearskin bedroll to bearly get by in the future? You can fill up your belly 100% before moving on. Border patrol doesn't confiscate eaten calories.

My glorious stick figure depiction of my Interloper Life.

Day 48 - failed to repair parka, it's ok at 84% i just wanted to wait a bit before travelling, fixed my earmuffs, then slept an hour due to fog - it's amazing how fast the calories burn on this mountain, i can't say i swim in food anymore, using teas and coffees often - i could shoot a deer if i get stuck somewhere for a while, but i rather save the bullets for predators - repaired parka after all, this fog is still meh but i want to move - hello a bear in the middle of a narrow path, waiting for him to leave, is he stuck? he's moving his legs but he's not moving from the spot - all right where is my flare gun, i only have one bullet but if he sees me sneaking by i'll use it - i love when you complain in a loud voice about hunger when you're close to a bear, let's remind him that it's dinner time - oh halp, am I stuck? why can't i move? D: is the game about to crash? none of the buttons are working, rebooot, i hope i don't return to the game eaten by a bear because i got stuck at the narrowest distance to his back - why is nothing working? is my computer broken? ;-; OH! lol my keyboard battery is dead, it could have beeped or winked or something to let me know - oh well where am I? back at the cave... lets go back to the bear... bear? bear? where are you? - don't see him, this moderate snowfall and wind aren't too friendly - a rope down, nah i don't want to go down, ran around the entire plateau peering off the edges, i'm not finding a way up, it's past noon already - ouch! my ankle, open meds screen, use painkillers, close screen. What even is THIS! ahh!!! blizzard!! where the snowfall am i? crawling along the mountain ridge hopeful i find my cave and not the bear - negative 16C brrrr!! deer clearing? yes yes cave somewhere... um... here... ouch! warmth dived into red... i think i've seen this big rock with white in the center wuuhww - this mountain has sneaky blizzards that pop in thirty seconds - my cave! i almost turned into popsicle! - interesting, there is a piece of coal i've missed, i'll just sleep for an hour to recover fatigue - wake up, it's moderately snowing, heh i have a feeling that blizzard was out to get me specifically, as soon as I hid it stopped within an hour - i have some charcoal in the burned out fire, i'll walk around and map the area while there is daylight left - ugh it's confusing having a bad sense of direction, i think this way is where i came from, empty hacksaw container - it's still fairly cold, chopped up a fir limb and returned to the cave - i'm going to be careful with food i have burned a lot of it

Day 47 - woke up a notch early, fog and a bit too chilly, repaired undies to wait a bit - fairly strong wind, walking slow, aha! another rope up! - deer clearing, fun! i would have expected a wolf clearing - another small cave, i like how there are lots of caves. my stamina is down due to climbing and it's not noon yet - slept off fatigue for an hour and the wind turned to lots of snow, i'll just look around the cave without leaving in case it gets worse - four birch saplings and harvestables and sticks - shiny!!! a big, grey container which has double doors! there is a sawing sounds when i pry it open - 2 simple tools, 3 rifle cleaning kits, 5 whetstones, a pack of cured leather, 4 cured bunny pelts. I'll make bunny gloves out of that! yay!! - Maybe I should build a bank on top of this mountain like Scrooge McDuck and swim through loot - chopped up a cedar limb and hid in the cave, the weather is punishing, more cozy logs inside for me - let's sharpen all tools and make another stash, get birch to cure, opening those crates took 10% out of the hacksaw - almost out of water, it's nice sitting in this cave by the fire listening to the wind outside, boiling everything, tea, coffee, mushrooms, rosehips - dropped all firewood into the flame, i wouldn't want ninja cold attack during sleep

Day 46 - the new day dawns and i ask what's across the lake? five wolves i bet, the map has to live up to its name, i take it the moose scared off the wolves from the lake or i'd see them - can't blame them, i'm scared of him too, i like my ribs - there is a bear, lets sneak past the big fuzzy, what a sneaky rope in a niche, i thought it was a cave at first - picked up more food from that hut and the weight is back, lets eat these 29% beans and drop two cans, why am i carrying cans, lets drink coffee too - there are howls coming up the rope, it's a long one too, pant gasp, lots of stamina there - this is some amazing view from the edge, i believe there is a steep path going uphill - drink more coffee, this is a long path - one wolf finally shows up far below and howls all lonely - an airplane engine is over here, i'm glad these aren't my pieces scattered around the mountain along with the airplane - what's this tree pointing at? a deep cave to explore! so far i'm enjoying this area - flat stones attached to a wall lead downward in a semi-circle, i had almost taken a fall by walking straight ahead - abandoned campfire at the bottom, coal and fir logs; the adventurer has mitten, iffy peaches, a flare and one bullet and painkillers, i want those, thank you - i actually want the flare, i thought my lantern is full, but it's about 80% and i don't want to rush through this cave - finding lots of firewood, that's good since i can use the torches too - gurr? that's a strange sound effect, must be the water or a very sneaky bear digesting something like the previous adventurer - light ahead, i'll go back and check the branched off tunnel too, i think this might be a circle - nothing remarkable, let's go out! a path up, up is good! interesting, this spot is called a cave but it's open, more like a mountain overarching it - campsite for a bedroll and a knife and mre... on loper I'd hide a bedroll here - this cave is an intersection - can you eat trees? are you JOKING? you've eaten all your food till no more space twice, oh well i have more food than i can carry, lets have iffy peaches and drop a can to mark the road i came from - so many howls around, i wander if i could climb this slanted tree just in case, nope, oh its an arrow tree - found a rope down, nawh, i want to go up. I'm going to climb to the top of this mountain and plant my socks flag at the highest point - back at the intersection, lots of paths to choose from, i don't really want to go back to that first cave since that is backtracking - followed another route, light snow falls, a tip of the moon is peeking out, i have gotten extremely lucky with the day, no wind and clear blue for full sun up - cave ahead, not a big one, i don't think fluffy residents have a need for cedar logs, probably not a bear cave - made a stash of extra bedroll, knife, mittens and a torch in case a Loper survivor comes by, such treasure - i wander if i should chop up a fir limb in case it gets cold, the wind is picking up, nah, i have two coal pieces and sticks, drop that too btw - peaches and dogfood dinner, add 2 cans to the treasure pile - craft and sleep

Day 45 - wake up and smell the rosehips; what's out the hatch? - oh right the backpack in the barn, yuck 5% candy bar, yay a field dressing book - a red rope is beckoning up, this looks like an end area, the only way is back down, so it's worth checking out what's there - i'm going to eat all this food until i'm 100% full, i've never eaten to a cap before and this will make the climbing much easier - there is a snow corridor and a lot of howls are coming from my travel direction every step of the way - fall into transition zone; Timberwolf Mountain? sounds promising! i would have liked bunny soufflés area instead but i'll take what i can get - a big airplane wheel is buried in snow... um... this is suspiciously familiar? is this my airplane? - studying the wreckage suspiciously makes me almost walk into a moose - Mooo!! no no! no moo! i was just leaving! sprinting! i already left! no need for moo! - it's a lake and a fishing hut, i'm not super impressed since no door, even though wolves aren't suppose to enter these structures i still feel like they'd grab my leg and pull me out if i'm fishing or doing anything else with my back turned - let's examine that house on the shore, its stairs are slippery, need funny angle to enter - interesting, no load door, just open and close, plus a workbench, a lovely fireplace stacked with wood - psssshh!!! wasn't there a decently grey weather five minutes ago? i can see the snow slashing through a fish like hole in the door - lets swipe the same hat for a newer one and read a bit before sleep @BareSkin *takes out a hatchet and knights BareSkin with it* Good Ser! I challenge you to a test! You must survive 30 days on each voyager map with a single survivor. The drop location is random and you are map locked on all of them. Once night 30 ends you must move to a new map before the moon appears above the horizon regardless of the weather. You may take one item of your choice with you. The rest stays behind, including the clothes. If you are on a map which has no alternative exit but the previous map, you may use your former items while travelling across to a new map, but it's one item limit when you exit. You may swipe. And remember about the moon and ball sleigh turning into pumpkin. The transition mines and the hydro dam itself are considered part of any zone they are attached to, but you may not make loot stashes in them. If you pick up a treasure cave item while living on a certain map it r belongs to that map now and must be left there once the magic clock rings 30th day. You may sleep in these mines, but consider exits to the other side locked unless it's the migration day. Feats: nope.

Now, now none of that, you LIKE roots! Yay for a girly item. Keep wearing guy undies all games long. Also, give voyager a shot. You will find it relaxing.

Those ski boots certainly have minuses I am not fond of and I always waffle a lot between all the clothes picks, not just shoes. I think I ended up picking them after much hesitation because this has been confirmed on Loper and also very real during the first week of the voyager run while you're still getting resources, the cold is the biggest impairment in terms of exploring or doing any outside activities. If you're cold you have to focus on running shelter to shelter or micro managing and planning. The ski boots offer the highest protection from cold. The goal of the current game is to look around as much as possible. I've scratched the surface of many maps, so, when I travel I get lost all the time. My current survivor only gets threatened by cold if I am getting hit by a blizzard, otherwise, she can stomp along like a tank from one end of a map to another in almost any weather and not be distracted from sight seeing. I think the time pressure only comes at the end of the day so you don't get stuck outside in the dark, but during the day I can relax and count the birdies. I have stashed the insulated boots, which would be my second choice after the ski (and higher waterproof I think) or the deer boots can be crafted, which is my other choice. I might swap out of the ski boots in the future. I don't want to craft at present and if I do I'd upgrade my gloves. I think bunny mittens are way better than any loot gloves I've seen so far. This might be my goal after I do certain stuff. I don't really know what's considered the best ultimate shoe every fashion survivor wants in this game, aside from my pick of top 3. Yeah! Those sprains are wickedness! I think they increase when you carry too much , so I'm just asking for it. At some point I've been dragging 39/30 kg. A LOT of it is food that's under 50% and since I'm not hunting or living off the land I'm dragging it around. If I do want to lighten the pack though, there is a convenient way with food to do so.

Back to my Voyager game. Day 44 - eww blizzard - let's finish reading the wilderness kitchen and begin on the hunting book 1h - checked the basement again, found a flashlight and shooting guide until weather improvement - there is a river behind the silo, a wolf heading to it, hope he isn't into skating because i'm going there too - this river sure is cattail stingy, in heavy snowfall the deer look like ghosts, steep banks, finally a way up and rosehips - gathering... lalala... bark! bark?? back away into the center of the ice and pull out the rifle - where is the bark? .... ... is this bark coming to get me or not? ... i'm not getting any dryer - as i start climbing the bank i see him on the rocks, he turns his back and goes away, lazy wolf, or maybe well fed by so many bunnies and deer around, why eat some skinny, wrecked survivor - hello pretty hut, do you have drycleaner? my clothes are 50% wet, but first gather food around the hut - read 2h and sleep one; it's still around noon - a rope i cannot climb encumbered, i wander if there is a path around to that upper platform, let's search - which way am i walking again? i think this is where the wolf went, best get my rifle out, i always miss when they charge but sometimes they get scared of the gunshot itself - this was a good idea to walk on hills with a rifle out, say hi to dual sprain - i'll just use the painkillers on the wrist and keep limping to a bridge, i think this hill can be climbed, indeed it can be - boulders, snow, boulders, pines, not much for sightseeing, there goes my second ankle, having to sprains apparently makes me walk straighter than with one - all right which wise guy just flipped the weather switch? we have a blizzard here - negative 7 even with all my clothes, uh oh, used painkillers on all owies and swallowed a candy bar - not that i wasn't lost, but seeing is always helpful when going anywhere - hi frozen guy on what looks like a snow path - the path takes me to the hunters blind. there are matches, a rifle cleaning kit and 2 arrows - sadly i cannot build a fire in the shelter of these walls; below the stairs it's too windy - negative 16, uh oh, i'm too rich to die. i haven't even worn out my expedition parkas yet - hi hypothermia, hope you aren't planning to stay, the wind bends the pines like matches - climbing uphill who knows where until i see a house... no it's a barn... wait this is great! it's actually zero in here and it has sheltered stove - there are two cedar logs but it's close to night time and it might get colder, i need more firewood - i can make out some big limb uphill or maybe a tree trunk? hope i can hack a big chunk off - hmm... what's this submarine hatch doing next to this limb? - hello safe and warm bunker! i get a luxurious choice of two beds! let's make it homely and organise the lockers - finish reading the archery book, less weight to carry - i should try to sacrifice more items for mobility, hard to pick what to leave behind, sharpen hatchet and knife to max and leave the whetstone - eat well and sleep even better, that was a tuff day, it was possible to go pushing up the daisies, getting lost in blizzards does that even well armed and dressed

You started with stalker or loper than? That's pretty wicked. What I found about Loper and Voyager is that if I want to relax or if I'm not feeling well, voyager is very good for it. Meanwhile, I need to be quick and alert for Loper (and also play it in shorter bursts). It keeps you in constant tension, or maybe in the future it will become easier for me, but not at present. In rl certain poisons cure in the correct dozes, funny in this case it helps too. I'd imagine being really tired after a bear though. Where in blazes do you get 1500 calories on Loper, I find that much in a week.

That's a very much in detail review. Thank you! Can you clarify this part please? Do you mean when conditions stock pile or if for ex you're in blizzard and you freeze, then you take more than 20? It's the same freezing condition but you're getting hammered more? Or its something invisible like you're not cold but you have wet clothes? Yep, cold is absolutely evil on Loper. You basically cannot choose the weather because there is no food so you must always be outside and outside is I consider anything to -10 picnic now. Another thing I've noticed is that zero sometimes counts as white and sometimes as red, I'm wandering if it's due to wet clothes or another reason. It's fairly accurate about -1 and -40, you just reach hypoth much earlier when it's colder, so the survivor at -1 would have a few extra minutes to travel farther to save their bacon. In my last Loper game I had the wickedest start to date, basically unknown map and -51C blizzard crashed in one minute into game play. Anyway, my survivor walked for hours in that and even climbed two scary ropes. So it takes several hours to kick the bucket. However, it still helps knowing vital points on the map. Actually, in order to get better at Loper you must play Loper and not another mode. Voyager experience only helps this much. For example, the matches are vital. I had a couple of starts in Pleasent Valley and now I know a place where I always find matches and where they might be available also areas not worth taking the travelling beating for or at least at the start of the game. I also have one idea which I haven't tested yet. If I do end up in PV again I'll test it.

As promised! Another Interloper attempt. Newbie Crow Day 1 - The Offset Falls, where in waterfall would this be? Hushed River Valley. I've been to a few maps by now, but never this one. - Let's climb this bank and cross a tree bridge. I won't gather yet because I need to find shelter foremost. - Literally one RL minute later: WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! Even if I knew where I was going, I wouldn't know where I was going. - minus 43C the wind is whipping and dicing... keep clinging to the mountainside in hopes of finding a cave, the series of small waterfalls cut the area making it following the bank uneven and with many dead ends - minus 51!!! that's EVIL!!! EVIL! even for interloper! I have four frostbites developing at the same time, never mind hypoth - aaaawwhhhaawww!!! meeeercyyyy!!! somebody give me a fridge to warm up in! - after hours of being the wind's punching bag stumbled onto some kind of rope... and rockface wall - I'll take it.... this rope is longer than Timberwolf Mountain! Sitting on the ledge, fatigue drooping at 25% waiting for stamina to recover, hey it's only -28C here with windbreak - The second fragment is brutal, make it or break it... hands burn red, feet keep sliding off at the weird angle on the very top of the cliff... go go go! ... phew... congratulations: frostbite is your winning prize for making it to the top! - keep walking until I bump into the edge of the cliff... it has a can of peaches, one bandage and a cedar log - i guess i'll go alongside it and hope to stumble into something useful in the blind... - stumbled into a second frostbite, not that my health will ever go over 70% anyway after this - ice cave? I've never been in one of these before! epic! -2C that's tropical compared to outside... lucky! it's not pitch dark in here... i can see somewhat! - followed a corridor picking up twigs and checking all nooks, the fatigue burns furious red - a nook... an adventurer to offer a stale candy bar... a survival book in the backpack, hacksaw... matches... AND! AND! - BEDROLL!!!!! +2.5 warmth... it's -2 I heart you frozen guy! - you have 2 seconds before hypoth develops... drop bedroll... you can't place it here... ahhh!! .... run two steps... drop bedroll! you can't place it here!! @#$@#$ run somewhere along the corridor... DROP bedroll!! yes! noooo! you now have hypothermia... awwwww.... - sleep 8h - woke up thirsty... health around 25% - started a fire and began boiling water... +5 how nice... oh this guy has a campfire too and a cedar log... thank you! - my pants went from 38% to 25% from that nice weather brrr! just thinking about is chilly - once the thirst is satisfied grabbed a burning twig and went out to check the cave, it's not big and there is a rope leading down... I think this is an alternative to that other outside rope... then I probably shouldn't be going down - returned to the cave exit... all right... i will starve in here so... hit me... - aurora is out... the air rings crystal... i think the shroud of green and pink sings to me - it's -38C... a snow path is winding between the cliffs... - the torch is burning, i am not sprinting much, hoping this path leads me out of this death valley - a row of bushes stands like the fence in the way. I can't squeeze through or around them... hey! out of my way grey twigs! - grey twigs require a hatchet to break down... - you have suffered a third frostbite... at this point the bears would feel sorry for me and would let me live in their cave cuddling to them... if I saw any bears... the only stupid out is this survivor - turn around and head back to the cave... the world turns blurry... - if I could make it there I could start another fire... smash my can of peaches and enjoy the 20% taste... sleep off the fatigue... if only... if only... i wouldn't fade into the long dark...

@BareSkin Thank you! So, this penalty sounds like voyager, I thought it was more or maybe I just can't read the new bar. haha You're most likely right about the reason! I don't like it at all that we no longer have %. It was extremely helpful in terms of learning and managing the game. I'm also wandering about this well fed buff. I just stuffed my character full and didn't get any indication or message about a bonus. The thing I figured best on Loper is that everything kills you in five seconds. A wolf sneezing on Timberwolf Mountain while you're at Mystery Lake will make you lose enough health that you'd need to eat 2000 calories and sleep 10h to get it back. In terms of food I'm not so sure it's 1% only. Or maybe it's 1% if you're literally doing nothing but hurts you more if you are doing a physical activity. I had everything good except hunger and broke green crate 1h. Either the bar shows crooked or the way it went down most assuredly wasn't 1%. That just took this chunk out of my health. I was warm and everything it was indoor. Another thing I wanted to ask is whether we're losing health while under affliction such as frostbite threat but no longer exposed. So you're indoor and well above zero, white bar, but it takes a while for fb threat to go away. I wander if health is penalized anyway. What about regeneration? I'm guessing around 30% if you're lucky. I figured one solid chunk of sleep is best, but in terms of how it recovers, it's ambiguous.

Hey guys, I've been wandering if there are any trusty Loper guides about the regeneration rates or how much punishment we take from each ailment in this mode or perhaps if the veteran players know whether they can tell me. I appreciate all the help I can get. I will probably post another Loper attempt at trying to last longer than five minutes sometimes soon. Let's head back to my Voyager crusade. I'm sure there is a wolf waiting for me with the fork and ketchup already. Day 42 - this wind isn't friendly, repaired the ski boots and compared to insulated, while some criteria is better they are horribly heavy 4kg vs 1.5 and insulated are 20% more waterproof, finally decided to keep the ski boots and hide insulated in the locker - repaired the fisherman sweater - finished reading the survival book and dropped it into the firewood pile - it's past midday, a wolf is hanging around very close to the barn, i wander if it's worth travelling or should i wait another day, pleasant valley is very big and it takes a long time to travel anywhere especially when you don't know where you're going - begin walking then go meh and return, finish repairing my fisherman sweater and organised locker space more, what in blazes is so heavy, i think i'm carrying bare necessities - back to truck napping Day 43 - wowzer, i like how it's clear but -6 even in all my very warm clothes! - this barn is a wolf factory, wolves to the right wolves to the aft, everywhere wolves, had to take a twisted path across the field to get around them all - eventually ended up taking a random direction all the way across the field and then over more snowdrifts - there is no hypoth risk but i am losing warmth gradually and the weather got one degree colder instead of warmer as the day progressed - when i was about to catch the chills i saw a circular rooftop of a silo peeking over the snow, upon closer examination it turned out to be a large farmhouse - since the barn next to it had nothing i stepped into the iron double doors that lead to a basement - another pair of ski boots, it seems pleasant valley is cold enough - warmed up and ventured back out, there is a grey car that needs checking, went closer eeep! there is a bear next to it! full reverse! - it seems predators love farming, there is a pack of three wolves hanging around one of the field wings - can't see anything interesting around the farmhouse - stood on the porch and repaired the ski gloves found in the basement three times, meh it's a waste, since ski boots are so good and ski jacket is good i thought gloves might be great too but my gauntlets are twice warmer, well these are good too, just not the best so far, i'd probably jump for joy on loper for ski gloves - repaired the snow pants and replaced military pants, now i'm wearing two pairs of snow pants - sneaked outside again the reached the grey car, not in vain since it had a green book on hunting - checked out the first floor until it got dark - hmmm 900 calories peanut butter at 11% ... chomp! i feel good, rest Night 43 - eep i fancy not waking fully rested in pitch dark while the blizzard howls outside - crafted mushrooms then went downstairs to the fireplace and set two pots to boil max amount of water - tried reading and receiving thirst complaint, read 1h, collected water and read two more hours to greet full daylight

Day 40 - backtracked over the waterfall bridge, i cannot spot a distinct road upwards but the snow slope looks climbable - the climb leads me to another trailer, i am not certain whether it is new or old, turns out new since there are clothes and food inside - while i grabbed loot my clothes dried up and i continued on track, there isn't much of a road, more like a snow path that's rather steep running up, that's where i go - the wind kicks up many notches, snow slams against me like a oozing green curtain and it's getting worse, i consider turning back when a mine entrance appears - this is probably the biggest mine i've explored so far, it has lots of twists and turns, although i can see moderately well i use the lantern due to the multitude of loot spots, there is even a crafting bench - the ski boots and a fisherman sweater make excellent finds - one of the dead ends has five reclaimed wood pieces and coal which i grab and make super heavy pack even heavier - dropped coal at the bottom of a wooden stairway and dragged wood to the top, at last light glimmers ahead - organised loot, dropped extra prybar and other stuff and went out where a single and long road leads down - followed it until i got a dual sprain, scowls, head back to the mine since the day is declining - boiled 2L of water at the entrance, heated up some beans and went inside to take a nap Day 41 - uff I don't like this wind! read 2h and then moved on - at the bottom of this hill turned left along the mountainside, can't say i walked that long when i heard a welcome bark that forced me to run back along the same route - once the sprint expired, began walking backwards holding out the rifle - i can see the wolf now pushing me back along the same line and then past the intersection - the wolf got bored of stalking me the moment i bumped into some tree and took an aim - i guess i should advance away from the mountains - trees trees more trees and omg trees this Pleasant Valley is huge and very much the same littered with blind hills and forest - reached some kind of a small pond that has cattails but didn't stop to grab them i want to find some kind of structure - more aimless walking in the mild fog until a bridge appears, on the other side a field littered with multiple hay storage sheds and a big red barn - a truck parked inside the barn is warmer and has a fire barrel right outside it - on the second floor there is a workbench tricky to get to due to the big holes in the floor - pried open three lockers and dropped off extra clothes - repaired ski boots twice, the third got interrupted by darkness - went downstairs to sleep in the truck

Hila and Nardo, I find it fascinating how much my survivor clings to straws at those points. Sometimes you know you are toast, but sometimes you have a goal ahead and you know if you just make it over that hill you will survive another moonrise and you wait with baited breath whether you'll make it or not. Back to my long voyager game. Day 39 - the sky is brown, plump snowflakes spin from its depth; i'll take it hence it's early and the weather might improve - i'm pretty sure this is the path back to the coastal since i know this mountain, you need to crouch under to pass - the sky is turning blue, but the snow keeps its intensity as i approach the waterfront cottages - there is a guy i've missed before since a wolf was in the way, empty anyway - went inside to refresh my memory and grabbed grape soda, exchanged a pot for a newer one - stashed extra hacksaw found at desolation point - along the highway i stroll once more eventually reaching the gas station area, entered the first house which turns out has my old stash but its kitchen drawers haven't been searched yet - used a toolbox to fix the big pot - off along the highway i go again until the log area and a trailer; there is a yellow sign and a wide road branching uphill, i don't think i've been there yet - kept going up and then right, the track takes me over a bridge, wait i minute, i've been here before, that's where that wolf chewed me up and a trailer - i guess i'll camp for the night and then backtrack and try to find another way uphill, i think there might be more goodies somewhere up there

@BareSkin Thank you, although, I'm pretty sure with my mathematical genius something like ten games converted into six. I may have posted a few without numbers or missed. I wander if it's possible to turn back on the % on the health bar. I don't fancy this update when it disappeared. I'm just learning Loper and I can't understand how much punishment I take from ill effects because the bar generally sliding up or down doesn't give me any decent information. I'm pretty sure a hit from thirst and food looks the same on that new bar. I only gather from this approximation that hunger hurts you more on Loper than in other mode, but once again how much. I can't seem to judge accurately how to best distribute resources, can I wait and do a certain activity if I'm hungry or it would injure my health too much. The change after activity gives me result that's too ambiguous, though the chunk that vanished from that bar looked more like 5-7% than 1% after I broke a 1h crate while hungry without other ailments. That does make sense, I must have been banging that can on some rock. It's funny how on voyager you're like bleh another can opener, toss over shoulder, and on Loper you're like wooohoo!!! a CAN OPENER! winner! This is the part I appreciate the most about Loper. You get happy about every single item. Hurray! I found a ragged t-shirt! In other mode it's just garbage. I'm also very happy with that image because when it comes to ss, during the most interesting points in the game you're generally saving your hide and don't have time for it. I have pretty landscapes, my base cottages for the most part and various auroras. This one was on the border of the long dark.

Hello, After the last update the survivor health bar looks really bad hence I can't judge cause and effect. Is there a way to enlarge just the bar and most importantly turn on the %? I'm just starting to play Loper and it looks like regeneration and how much you get hurt from ailments is different than in other modes or maybe there is update change is Dec. That approximate up and down mess doesn't give me any valuable info. I can't even understand if thirst or hunger hurts the survivor more. This is really annoying.

I've given another shot to Interloper. This experience was fascinating and I found it to be rewarding. Game 6 Interloper, Newbie Crow Day 1 - faaahlop into snowdrift, once I pull my head out I'll try to get my bearings - muskeg? i do know this place and i can spot the forge from this tall bank - hop hop this tree bridge is familiar - minus 15C hey, that's a pretty good weather for loper, it's crystal clear too - a moderate wind from the left is slowing me in places and forces a bit of sprint to leap over the obstacles - i haven't seen this broken radio tower before, then again who knows what falls out of the sky, myself included - there should be a patrol wolf and a cave nearby - i don't see barky! i don't see him! quantum bum mode into cave while the way is clear - ho ho ho frozen adventurer you be Santa? i got a ski jacket at 58% and sardines in his pack, a book on survival thanks! surviving is pretty important, cedar log and three pieces of coal, sooo... have I been good or naughty then? hehe - bounce bounce running past mushrooms and harvestables since i want to give that patrol wolf a slip, if he's not here now he will be in five minutes - old pal Spancer had a farm ia ia ia o and on his farm he had survivor ia ia o - he also had matches... all twelve, i'm rich! - a blue parka at half health completes my jackets set - trail boots in the corner, sure, trailing is fun - a bandage in the medkit - a red book is on the ground, but i don't pick it up yet - skipped around two nearest barns grabbing metal scraps and all the firewood i can get - hammer? hammery hammer hammer? nope - the lockers require a prybar, go fish for that too lady survivor - it's -1C next to the bed on the second floor which has +5 warmth bonus, slept 2h without the fire and got rid of hypoth - the weather is holding, skip hop along the yellow docks road that leads to the middle of the lake - three wolves are skating on my right, not sure if within agro range or not - reached the barrel barn; more coal, it's great when the forge area is littered with coal plus fir logs - on the way back searched two drawers in a house hammered so deep into the lake that only a roof remains - can't do anything about a deer, too bad as it looks yummy Night 1 - no tinder? not even a useless million dollar banknote? at least i grabbed a branch to harvest for tinder bark - fired up the forge hence my bum is freezing part - the water boiled out while i was breaking a green crate underneath the bed floor but i've gained two cans of doggy food - i do enjoy cracking safes, hey decent trail boots and ragged jeans, jeans with holes are fashionable this season - 400/500 dog food calories without the can opener such a waste - odd why didn't i get a can from the canned food - setting water to boil in my only tin can while breaking green crates, sometimes i can grab it before it boils out and sometimes i trip over the boards and don't make it - found two fire accelerants in those crates Day 2 - the day begins with the dense fog - dropped reclaimed wood into furnace, it is colder now, trying the trick of setting the water to boil and sleeping 1h bursts then trying to grab water - eventually all fatigue burns off and i must travel even though it's still mildly foggy, without the hammer i have no more business here - made a bunch of torches out of the remaining fire and off i go - still no patrol wolf by the cave, used the chance to gather all beards and lots of mushrooms - at the tree bridge the cold caught up, placed my fire by the wall, i wish i had warmed up in the cave instead - while the water boiled crafted mushrooms and then made tea - shoot! failed to light the torch from the dying fire - @#@$%! even worse, while i was travelling instead of relighting new torches from the previous ones i was using the matches and i wasn't warmed about it - ima cry instead of 11 matches i have 9 remaining - drank of a cup of hot tea and climbed downhill to the railway - grabbed a cedar log by the cart and crossed to the other side between wagons where i see cattails - the cattails track lead me to the wooden structure, it's not a place to rest but it has a cedar log - tried returning to the tracks and fell through the ice brrr!! ice starts cracking again uh oh i must take the shore now - this is odd, i don't have hypoth after such bath, just increased risk, maybe i fell through to an ankle - there might be a snow shelter nearby on a hill - i'm right and i find another cedar log by the shelter - it's warm enough to sleep 2h until it drops to -1C - there goes another match Night 2 - slept in couple of hour bursts - there is an aurora, i'm afraid to climb out of the shelter due to wolf noms - my health is not really recovering, i wander if it doesn't in snow shelters - i have 17 cattails, keep drinking teas and eating those to prevent more health hits - closer to morning snow begins falling, i wouldn't want to be stuck here in a snow storm - risked climbing out to set the water to boil and hid back in the shelter listening for bubbling - the wolves are doing a howling concerto from every direction - repaired the snow shelter since it needs only two sticks and takes 3mins - ate sardines and a mouldy candy bar found on a guy next to the snow shelter Day 3 - the moon vanished behind the horizon, as i begin walking the weather decides to play nice and the snow ceases - the torch i have is the one i picked up from an adventurer, it has far more durability than the ones pulled out of the fire - minding my business and gathering mushrooms when i hear a distinct woof - whoa! not sure where that's coming from but ruuuun! - once the stamina is out walk backwards clinging to the torch and searching the area - finally i spot the wolf sneaking over the hill, growling without attacking, he is following me as i keep walking backwards and crouching on minor hills in hopes of losing him - i have three rocks maybe i should throw those at him - i bump into something behind me, waste time trying to get around it and the wolf closes distance, heads forth, sniffs an ice flow between us then goes meh and begins walking away - the relief lasts about two seconds then yeowwwcch!! frostbite risk? where did this come from? - it's -28C eeek! when did that happen? ugh! i need shelter, hypoth risk eating my health badly! - i see the red wagon a moderate distance away, hurry up and watch out, this is a bear patrol area - second frostbite risk! agh! wasting time getting around the cracking ice, i don't see the bear anywhere, hurry - no no no world don't become blurry! - ROOOOARRR!! Ahh! I knew there is a bear nearby! ooh scary, run run run, please don't eat me - scary roars right at my heels - dodging around some stupid tree limbs in my way and running along the wagons - dive inside and fire accelerant! ppssshhh! drop wood cold, drop more wood still cold...nooooo -1C even hugging the barrel - quick boil mushroom teaaaa! +5C phew! finally getting warmer - oh quit wavering so much and crouch still, you're going to fall out of the wagon - just realised there are two pieces of coal in the wagon with me ahhh nice and toasty much better - munching of cattails and drinking plenty of teas and water - eventually the cold afflictions go away - there is also a flare on the floor - much later: hmmm ok you're warm and fed and not even tired why is the health still in red, do you require a get well and fed card from local wolves? - how am i suppose to travel when the world is blurry plus the bear and wolves vanguard - oh whatever i'm out of food and firewood - shoot! i can't even make a clean getaway, the bear is circling around the mini island where the wagon is - the fire goes out and i finally give him the slip, moving in the straight line directly to the mystery lake... just walk calmly and try not to look delicious... calmly... CALMLY... oh i've got nerves! run! - without being eaten i make it to the boundary and find empty green boxes and a medkit thanks for nothing - there must be the wolf patrol along the tracks thus i must turn downhill and hope to reach the hunters cabin - the snow is falling in large fluffy flakes - increased fatigue makes it harder to pull my feet out of the snow but i persist and hurry - hypoth risk is back hurting me, half way downhill i run out of calories too - a lone wolf howls in the distance but that's the last thing i care about as the already red health shrinks even more melting like the spring snow - i roll down to the ruined barn and pass it, i know where i'm going... - the faint cabin outline stands like a dream in front of me amidst falling snow and dusk - my spirit went to it and knocked even as i faded into the long dark - perhaps another survivor heard me I've taken this image an instance before my survivor faded.

Sounds like a promising future!

Day 38 - while the bear stomped away, sneaked past him and discovered another cave, checked interior even though I think teddy lives in it - searched a red car before peering over the broken bridge's edge - there is a frozen guy in the nook but no safe way down; i'd have to go far around the road to search for a spot where to step onto the lake and that would be going past wolf and bear; not worth it, i bet he's empty anyway - hurry back to the mine before the bear comes back since there is only one narrow route - i guess this is the end of the zone without transition to another; thus i go deep into the mine - the light glimmers ahead, hey, this is the desolation point too, i can see the church from this exit - the snow slope appears to be climbable - eventually reached another mine entrance; wait a minute, i've been here before burning the lantern oil; here's the quirky spot where the tunnel roof is low and you must crouch to pass a wide section - at the end of the tunnel there are lockers and my stash where i had left the insulated boots; repaired them - now i remember, this exit leads to the crumbling highway - i guess i'll be heading back, i hope i haven't missed any secret transition zones to the new maps - walking away from the central road leads me to the three ruined houses, while the car by them is searched, there is a cellar at the back of one house, i don't think i've seen it yet - a new spot discovered, funzie, the dryer has gauntlets, good hence i want an extra pair, and the washer has two pairs of socks - too bad i left my sewing book at the mine; ripped apart junk clothes to pass time

Day 37 - begins with snowfall and two hours of reading until i get clear skies - it seems i'm at the tip of this maintenance yard - a pickup truck in blocking the entrance to the bridge that leads to the highway, climbed into the truck and came out through the other door - didn't get very far when I heard a familiar woof woof that prompted me to run across the bridge to a green car - the wolf sniffed the car and left a paw prints trail in the direction where i'm planning to go - whelp can't get old waiting around might as well leave the car, gave the wolf a slip and followed the highway until I saw a path leading into the mountain area - lovely, it's a mine entrance, this area is rich in mines and bountiful in coal - organised extra items into stashes on a metal shelf inside the mine entrance - went out to check the way, there is a large bridge and a bear is standing in the middle of the road; got to keep an eye on that stray wolf too, he has a wide patrol range - while the bear was passing chopped down four birch saplings and gathered wood along with beards - it seems too late for more travelling, finished survival book and received fire starting improvement - tucked one hour of reading about sewing too Night 37 - aurora in all it's glory is out - chopped a cedar limb to start a fire outside - on a stone boiled water in the pot and on the other stone made coffee and warmed stew

Day 36 - woke up early and checked behind the bed; what's this small, brown, triangular thingy very slightly sticking out? drag... drag... grab... grab... I founds a 3rd rifle - cleaned the rifle to get better and placed it where it's easily visible, cannot take it along - whelp, gotta go... gotta go, got more bears to visit... speaking of bears I see one rather far away hanging along this yard's fence - checked out the black wagon and found a bullet on the wooden platform - peeked inside the second trailer... ooh! 99% ski jacket, the extra one I've got is 95% I'm swimming in jackets! going to leave one of them too - sob; there are big stashes of loot i'm leaving behind everywhere my grabby little heart weeps for - all I carry away from each zone are half ruined socks and food - where did all this fog come from... carefully went in the direction where i saw the bear since that's where another trailer is and got inside, - this one actually doesn't have a bed, but i can drop a bedroll on the floor - completed the reading on fishing, tried reading a new survival book but keep getting excuses not to - rest I guess

Day 35 - gotta go, as nice as this place has been - tried climbing onto the ice directly from the lighthouse for a shortcut, eep! it's a looong rocky drop, not doing it - walk walk walk a long hook around both bridges, at least the wolves do not spot me - at the earliest opportunity went down to the ice, walking cautiously nonetheless, no idea how thick this ice is - arrr! ahoy me mateys! get yer treaaarsure ready fer me! - lots of crates, coal and boxes in the cargo hold, the interior is bigger than i thought, a number of rooms - hey, is that a frozen mechanic next to a stove... hoold it! that's not a stove, that's a fooorge! xD awesome! I like this forge better than the other one. this is a romantic indoorsy location. a brig sealed into the ice! yarr! - i'm barely dragging my feet anyway with all this loot, left more of it where it is, food aside, don't want to forge things yet, though a couple of bullets I spot in shady corners are grand - disembarked and crossed the ice onto a small island nearby, there is another empty corpse on the shore - I do believe I've seen next to a bridge by the waterfall a fallen truck - crossed all the way towards it, i can hear the wolves but do not see them - ouch, don't envy the driver, the car nose is wedged firmly into the ice, the truck must have taken a nose dive off the bridge - rifle cleaning kit, a rope, a perfect condition prybar, grabbed all the goodies since i'm not planning to return to this car - there is a big yard further down the shore surrounded by a fence - checked three boats by the docks and cautiously got lost in the labyrinth of creaking rusty metal and reclaimed wood pyramids, this is an ideal spot for a wolf to ambush you - a trailer along the fence has a couple of bunk beds, they aren't too pretty and the whole thing is cluttered with metal frames - a huge barn is dominating the yard center, at first i thought big double doors lead inside, but it's a small metal door - the barn interior very much resembles outside, great many things clutter it, a heavy hammer and a hacksaw are tucked in various corners - dropped off the rope and some extra tools on top of the workbench - one of the shelves contains another book, this is great i have three books to finish - crack knuckles, hello safe, ooooh!! who is the lucky owner of the second expedition parka? yep, that's me! - since I don't have a drop of water left, busted up a green crate and fired up a barrel. my old firestriker broke and didn't start the fire, used a match from my hoard of matches, about sixty on me and stashes at ML and Coastal - repaired the expedition parka while the water boiled, i'll keep the ski jacket as my extra emergency one - it's rather dark, grabbed a torch, i think i spotted a stairway in that corner, climbing up... yep! here's a bed

HAPPY NEW YEAR! May your survivors find yummies and goodies this magical day! Day 32 - the day begins with snow, while it's not terrible, i can try waiting an hour or two, drank some old soda and put in two more reading hours - same old weather, I'll walk anyway; avoiding the lower road at the shore followed a path up and found an isolate house - got soaked by the time i reached it and figured i'll dry up while checking for loot - nice combat pants, see ya cargo pants, grab expiring stuff too - going out again, since the path ended went along the forested hill area and eventually was forced to climb down to a couple of buildings by the waterfront - hey, i've seen this bear before, he's coming over from that patrolled island towards the waterfront cottages - went inside since he's already on this bank, while waiting for him to go away raided this cottage too - peeked out, the bear is gone, upon approaching the second cottage saw a wolf on this bank too, it seems these two buildings are guarded - oh a second pair of the insulated boots, woot woot they're half worn though - finished reading the thick field dressing book and dropped it - i'm not fond of the frozen guy in the bedroom. it would have been waaaay more fun if he was more lively and rather hot. guess i'll stay regardless since don't want to slide next door past the wolf and the bear Day 33 - ran for it while the guards are away - a red car on the roadside marks the path to a new area - hello Crumbling Highway, you sure have an uncomfortable entrance under some mountain - peeked off the top of the rocks; no cottages, no landmarks only two wolves bossily moving across the ice in my direction too - returned to the road to check out a grey car; one must get their butt out of here while they have a butt - the road crumbles half way, must take a detour around the forest past a ruined house which has a green box next to it - climbed back onto the road from the other side where a snowy path curves back to the higher ground - what an interesting booth that looks like a large doghouse which is a mine; looks like the crumbling highway is small - checked out the metal shelves and drawers at the mine entrance, i'll stash the boots here since they're so heavy, hesitated whether to repair them but i don't want to waste daylight - this mine is long and deep and requires a lantern to explore - at the center there is a workbench and another loot area - some very unlucky guy lies behind the bars with a heavily busted prybar, he must have desperately tried to break the bars to get inside this passage - the other side of the mine has goodies too - stashed away a few pieces of coal found in the passage, the passage has lots of them - stepped out of the mine onto the Desolation Point, not going to explore it yet - finished reading the hunting book and got the firearms better - i'm going to spend the night inside the mine and then Gummi Bears bouncing here and there and everywhere Day 34 - epp foggy snow, two hours of reading the fishing book until it got clearer - followed a snowy passage between the mountains until an intersection and then chose the upper ground, it's always good to choose upper ground - from the top of the rocks I spot a paved road below and a couple of cars - beyond that there is a sea with a wolf hanging around, that wolf enjoys howling - eventually reached a stone church, it is a beautiful ruined building - i wander if the wolves can come in or not through the missing chunks of the walls, a fire barrel tells you it's cold sleeping here at night but still shelter - a box of ammo is waiting under a bench and a balaclava on top, glance around without grabbing much stuff - from the church there is a view to a lighthouse - examined the highway right and left before crossing and wandered onto the two bridges that lead to the lighthouse; it stands isolate on an island - two wolves are hanging around the ice below these bridges; i'm glad they don't see me - the lighthouse is fascinating; a winding stairway runs up three stories with landings; found another balaclava and a book on survival - the hatch on the last floor leads to a glassed landing where I find another bullet - this view is impressive, an ancient ship in the distance promises adventure, i wander if it's safe to go across the ice or will I get dunked - the second floor has a simple bed; this is where I spend the night Night 34 - woke up fully rested while it's still dark - turned on the lantern and climbed higher where I saw three green crates - busted them up and found a jerry can; very useful since i have been walking around the mine with a lit lantern and then around the lighthouse - waiting for another day