UpUpAway95

Always start with the Interlper template.  Ideally, don't change the BRA from low to medium and only activate the rifle or the pistol.  Do a forge run as you would in Loper.  If you do change the BRA, then make sure that the loose item availability, empty container chance modifier, and reduce item container density are set to their harshest settings and that the item decay rate is set to its fastest setting.

Ideally, they will fix the BRA such that it only affects the type of loot available, not the amounts of loot available and provide a separate toggle to enable just a hatchet and just a knife if desired.  This would really enhance the gunloper experience.

In the meantime, @ManicManiacsuggested, another way to deal with "too much loot" is to not pick it up or immediately harvest it or put back into containers out of sight where they can simply decay.

Your abundance in tools is likely RNG since I've done several starts with various settings where tools have been in relatively short supply.  All in all, the randomness has created an imbalance in what can be found in most runs (e.g. my pilgrim run in Mystery Lake that yielded 8 can openers, but only 1 knife and no gun of any kind.  My more recent quick start in Milton (to check for moose rubbings in Milton Basin) yielded 3 can openers in Gray Mother's house alone, but no other tools.  I don't think I ever did find a hatchet on that run (although I did not search all of Milton... just enough to give me enough clothing to stay warm going into the Basin.

2 hours ago, Leeanda said:

I've lost my living off the land and loot the Milton boex achievements and according to my profile progress I've only played for 1 day.. when I've actually played for over 5000 hours.😁

Ouch!!!

or perhaps this one by Gordon Lightfoot if I was going with some lyrics:

I tend to stick to the game sound tracks.  I agree with @Kranium that lyrics don't really fit with the game's vibe.  If I did pull up some other music, it would probably be El Condor Pasa from Zamfir:

8 minutes ago, hozz1235 said:

I'm with @Leeanda on little "ledges" or sticks you can't step over but this has been an issue with games forever.  

 

Also, bears I shoot, then they despawn.

The game is just giving bears "no quarter" right now.😀

2 hours ago, AdamvR said:

Initially i thought this to have another explanation, but recent reoccurrence confirmed this:
There appear some sticks and stones in the world, which, upon picking up adding not one but much more sticks/stones to the backpack (in the range between 50-100).
Has anyone met this before? (I've ran into it multiple times in my current run)
Is this a new added feature, or a bug?

I haven't encountered that one yet.  I have had a number of sticks despawn just as I've been picking them up though and not go into my inventory at all.  Same with some stones.

10 hours ago, Leeanda said:

Getting stuck on tiny bits of snow on roads etc...   Or worse half climbing the ropes on the bridges in ash canyon.. happens a lot with me. 

There's this one place on one bridge in Ash Canyon were I always tend to "trip" (i.e. get momentarily stuck)... scares the crap out of me every time.  I'm having an bit of an issue after this last update disengaging myself at the bottom of climbing ropes... more often than not, I start to climb back up them for some reason.  I wouldn't class any of these as "my biggest gripe" though.

I think the biggest gripe I have now is the darkness of many interiors even on bright sunny days.  The Carter Dam in particular has gotten a lot darker inside since the update... I can't even get past the lobby now without having to light a torch.

5 hours ago, Glacia said:

Because every survival game (With various difficulty modes) needs some easy and understandable options for new players. 

Imagine a new player buying the game and not even knowing what is a timberwolf, how the mechanics works and basically nothing. The game settings are perfect as they are, custom only needs a few tunning options like the feat progress and other suggested features.

Then the solution is to make the custom menu more easily understood in the context of a "normal" difficulty.  Anyone playing a harder difficulty should have familiarized themselves with the game enough to understand the custom menu (especially if it is presented to them at the start of the game rather than buried below four other standard difficulty settings.  If they were "perfect" as they are, why are so many Lopers inclined to suggest changes and complain every time HL changes something... e.g. (a few I've heard over the years): Birch bark teas added - Lopers response was too OP; T-wolves added - AI sucks... Blackrock added - Lopers have no reason to go there....... Why aren't they "homogenous" in there assessment that the settings are "perfect?"  Answer - Because they aren't.

If they leave the current templates in the default menu, then you could still select Loper, Stalker, Voyageur, or Pilgrim from within the Custom menu.  Those settings just become part of the custom menu rather than standing out alone on the main menu page.  Throwing it all into the custom menu streamlines the startup process.  If they add new templates that reflect some of the more commonly loved custom games - e.g. gunloper, NOGOA, NOPE, Deadman, etc., then that would save players having to look for the unique codes for those games as well... or perhaps they could give players a way to save their own templates, so they could "quick start" their favorite custom game without having to type in a code each time.

As I see it, it opens up a world of possibilities.

10 hours ago, Kranium said:

well duh. haha I am a Custom fanboy, for sure. I wasn't arguing against you there, other than one line. (what do lopers want) It was a question based on a false premise. (that every player on a given difficulty should have the exact same mindset)

 

That said, since Feats weren't available in Custom, and unless they make Custom options changeable from an existing Interloper (or whatever diff.) run, I'm now locked in to Interloper, essentially. (I don't enjoy new runs anymore, it's simply an exercise in memory & patience) But for new players/runs, your take would be ideal, and I'm all for it. Custom all the way.

I knew that... some people say why, I say why not (didn't someone once say something like that?)  I also know that Lopers are not homogenous, but I was responding to someone else's "we are Lopers" comment.

If they eliminate the standard difficulty settings, then feats would have to be able to be earned in custom because the custom menu would be the starting point and would be the only way to change parameters/game difficulty.  The more I think about it, I think the way to go with this would be to leave in just one "normal/default" template... kind of like a number of character creators in RPG... show the default template when you open the custom menu and show what each slider means in the context of those settings... Then have the descriptions change slightly as the player moves the various sliders around.  If necessary to maintian performance overall, some sliders could also move relative to each other (much like the Oblivion character creator did).  For example, if there is an overall "animal cap" for balance, if one spawn chance slider is pushed to very high, the max for other related ones could become high or medium.

9 hours ago, Lexilogo said:

I can just imagine the amount of Great Bear Residents who thought "aha, I've seen Fallout 4, I know what to do!" and ran into the portapotties, sat on the toilet, and died for the sake of environmental storytelling

I'd die laughing if we opened the door and got a prerecorded voice saying... "Nuclear protection on a budget."

34 minutes ago, Kranium said:

Interloper players aren't homogeneous, heck, that goes for pretty much every grouping of humans ever. We're all individuals... we're each a custom install.

So then, why not eliminate the standard difficulties altogether and just use the custom menu right off the start?  Templates could stay in place, maybe even just mix them up so they don't even appear to be in order of "difficulty" and maybe remove the names for them... and then even add a couple of new ones the change the experience even more (e.g. NOGOA, NOPE).  This would re-focus HL on providing flexibility within the custom menu of interest to a wider variety of players and cleaning it up a bit to make it function more "as advertised" and be more easily understood... instead of their having to referee arguments like this one over content not being equally accessible to all of the standard difficulties or some types of content diminishing the harshness of some difficulties.  People would perhaps then just be able to choose what content they wanted to "turn on" or "turn off" or how they themselves would want to scale the "difficulty" or "harshness" of their own experience.

2 hours ago, Glflegolas said:

I think the total number of bears in Pleasant Valley depends on the difficulty. It seems likely that there are 3 active dens in Voyageur and 5 in Stalker. Interloper probably has 4. Exact locations will vary depending on the playthrough.

This would be controlled by the "bear spawn chance" setting.  Using the custom templates, the bear spawn chance is low in Pilgrim, medium in Voyageur, very high in stalker, and high in interloper.  Not sure this necessarily means that the player will always see 3, 5, & 4.  I've long suspected that they are somewhat dependent on an overall "animal cap" in the area any may vary depending on, say, whether or not a moose has spawned in that area.

I say this because pushing all the animal settings in custom to very high does not seem to give the same sort of increase in every animal as just pushing one setting does.

21 hours ago, Serenity said:

Can we please get over this "Interloper = no loot" mindset? It's not true. There is plenty of loot in Interloper. It's just not all in one place. And at the point where you are doing the transmitters and hunt for the bunkers loot isn't an issue anymore. You won't do this is in the first days where you're actually struggling.

The bunkers shouldn't be full of tools and clothing. But adding a bit of food (especially the new corn or ham) wouldn't upset balance at all. Some pieces of firewood would also be thematic.

There is a comment on another thread in the Wish List section entitled "Interloper Overhaul" (updated), a few posts down by @Sir Major M.oos.E Sr. that I'm going to quote hear:

8 minutes ago, Leeanda said:

@UpUpAway95 no rubbings in BlackRock.. I've been everywhere except hrv and nothing at all.   More actual moose sightings though. 

Thanks... it's looking more and more like they have either gone missing (perhaps due to the addition of the acorn-producing trees) or are intentionally removed with this update.

8 hours ago, odizzido said:

@xannaIt's only become common recently as publishers have discovered people are more than happy to buy unfinished broken games. It's the same with all the gambling mechanics and buyable loot now, and they know that legally nobody can do anything if they force patch in a bunch of gambling after the game has been on sale for a while and the reviews are out.

Anyways, yes, TLD is still in early access. They sold their game as a story game with five chapters and only four have been completed. The exact definition of early access on steam is

This game is unfinished and it is currently being developed. This is the very definition of early access. Hinterland are the ones who are confusing the matter by labeling a game they are still finishing as out of early access. My guess is they wanted an injection of cash which is how that happened.

 

 

Now as to whether telltale's games were out of early access on the first chapter, I am not sure. It would depend on what they sold. If they sold it as a single chapter then no. If they sold it as five chapters with only one done then yes.

I understand your beef... but, on Xbox at least, it is not being sold as "game preview" and hasn't been sold as that since August 1, 2017.  Since HL's quote indicates it was released on all platforms as of that date, I doubt Steam is selling it under "early access" either.  Yeah, there is nothing legally that can be done and these "premature" (i.e. overtly buggy) releases are a big problem for consumers... but it still does not mean it is IN early access.  Whether it SHOULD still be is a different question... I would agree with you that it SHOULD BE still in early access and that then maybe HL would have kept a better focus on finishing the story... but it is not still in early access (that's just the sad fact).

Still, telling someone that they bought an early access game when they didn't and telling them that they should have waited until it comes out of early access when it is already out of early access is not helpful to them at all... It's just confusing them.

At any rate, the OP was expressly talking about this expansion pass on Xbox... we waited longer for its release on console... and even that didn't sort of some pretty serious bugs related to the consoles... and that is disappointing.

Nice work!  Hopefully, HL will find a fix for it soon.  Looks very much like the game does have some conflicts with Xbox's sleep mode and quick resume functions.

3 hours ago, UpUpAway95 said:

I haven't started a run in Milton yet.  I'll do that to check it out.

Found

3 hours ago, xanna said:

I'm 90% sure I saw moose sign on trees in Milton Basin, and other places in my run that I can't now remember where. I'm on PC.

Just finished my moose test in Milton... no moose up top (pond near exit to HRV) and no rubbings.  Moose found in Milton Basin... no rubbings.  Ash Canyon 2 runs... moose in both locations, rubbings in neither; Broken Railroad 3 runs... moose once up top near hunting lodge... no rubbings; moose near bridge twice (maintenance shed level)... no rubbings.  Still a perfect batting average re moose with no rubbings.

8 minutes ago, xanna said:

I'm 90% sure I saw moose sign on trees in Milton Basin, and other places in my run that I can't now remember where. I'm on PC.

I haven't started a run in Milton yet.  I'll do that to check it out.

Just now, ManicManiac said:

@UpUpAway95

I don't mind starting a new run for science... I'll let you know if my findings match yours.
If I find what you've found, I'll be submitting a ticket as well.
 

(yes, I'm on PC)

Thanks!  I really appreciate it!

Just now, ManicManiac said:

@UpUpAway95

In my present run (started before the update), I am currently in Timberwolf Mountain... the spot between the Moutaineer's Hut and the Landing Gear Wreckage has had a confirmed moose and does sport the Bark Scrapings.

I've not had the chance to look for them in the previous 5 regions I've already explored.
I know that the Bridge in Desolation Point has always seemed to be missing the Bark Scrapings but is frequently an active spawn location.

That would be on PC then, started after the first Tales update, but before this one?  I wonder if any PC players who have started new saves after this update are still getting moose scrapings then?... or in any console players are getting any at all (since they wouldn't have any saves started between the first instalment of the expansion pass and the second (since they were released together on console)?

1 hour ago, ManicManiac said:

@xanna

As far as I have experienced each bear is linked to just one den (but it can have a few different routes to wander).  **Yes, there are occasions where a den is not marked by bones - just as there are some occasions that an active Moose Spawn is missing Bark Scrapings.

 

Have you seen any moose scrapings at all since the update?  I've encountered several moose (in various saves and various difficulties), but not a single moose scraping.  I'm wondering if HL has intentionally eliminated them or whether my game is  "consistently" bugged.

22 minutes ago, xanna said:

So glad you're up and running again @UpUpAway95. Are your saves OK?

They seem to be OK... at least I can launch them and I am at the same point where I left them.

On 4/10/2023 at 7:47 AM, UpUpAway95 said:

This morning, I've encountered an extremely serious problem.  When I first tried to launch TLD, my internet connection was down so the game asked if I should "try again" or "use offline."  I opted instead to back out and go to the home page to test my connection and try to sort it out from there.  I got the internet back up and running, but now TLD will not launch at all.  I get the title screen (black that says The Long Dark) for a moment, then the screen goes entirely black (title disappears) and nothing further happens (I've sat and waited on that totally black screen for minutes.  I can return to the home page, quit TLD in the manage games menu, and launch any other of my games.  I'm sending HL a bug report, but I'm frustrated to the point of being ready to just uninstall the game and forget about it entirely.

Finally got my game operational again... Had to do a complete "full" shutdown of the Xbox from the settings menu, leaving it off for several minutes.  After restarting, I still had to use the "manage games" menu and fully "quit" TLD (I don't think it should have required this with a full shutdown of the Xbox, but it did).  Anyway, after that the game would at least launch again without having to uninstall and reinstall it a second time.

On 4/10/2023 at 4:21 AM, Leeanda said:

I've found a few containers/drawers etc that say unsearched when they have been.  

This is happening a lot... also, more often than not, the "empty" or "searched" label doesn't come up until I move the cursor off the container and then back again.

18 minutes ago, xanna said:

Status of cars in Mountain Town not preserved after transitioning and retransitioning (eg if I go into a house and then back out again).
Bonnets (hoods) I had opened are reset to closed, and visors I pulled down are reset , too. The loot is not replaced, but the car model does not remember what state it was in. This was for all cars in MT.

That started happening to me ages ago.  I just gave up opening the hoods and started placing a tinder plug on top of them to show I had searched the vehicle.  If the vehicle had a battery in it, I would remove it and set that on top of the hood instead.