Improvement ideas about harvesting and water handling

[yoli]

I'd have the following suggestions:

Harvesting

In recent update harvesting a fresh carcass with bare hands has been disabled. It requires a sharp tool to cut open first then may be harvested with bare hands. I think the change is a bit too drastic, making it impossible to cut open without a sharp tool is not realistic. With some patience, one may be able to cut open with a stick or stone provided the carcass is not frozen. I would suggest the following changes:

- Add the notion of "cut open" when harvesting a fresh carcass. If no sharp tool, would be possible with a stick, stone, scrap metal and would require several attempts to succeed (this may also be a skill we may improve over time) provided the carcass is not frozen.

- The more advanced the state of mouldiness would be, the easier the carcass would be to harvest with non sharp tool.

Water handling

I've always found weird we could die of dehydration in TLD where we are constantly surrounded by snow. I know "eating snow" could lead to hypothermia and so it is prevented which makes sense, but what about gathering snow into a container and placing it some time into a building where temperature is above 0°C? Water may be fresh and lower our body temperature a bit, but at least we would not dehydrate.

 

 

 

 

 

[hozz1235]

3 hours ago, yoli said:

Water handling

You would also need to consider the boiling of the water to kill bacteria.

[odizzido]

I don't think any buildings are ever above zero are they? I thought they were all around -4 or so.

As to snow causing hypothermia....if you're not doing anything and already freezing then sure. If you're pulling around 50kg of gear then eat all the snow you want.

For bacteria in the snow, they tend to cause problems when the temperature is hovering around zero so that water is liquid and bacteria can do their thing. From personal experience and the experience of at least a couple dozen people, I think you're going to be perfectly fine eating freshly fallen snow in -20 degrees

[yoli]

17 hours ago, hozz1235 said:

You would also need to consider the boiling of the water to kill bacteria.

The water melted this way would be unsafe as is the water which has been put onto a fire but not to a boiling point. We can drink it but with risk of affliction, or we can boil it or use purification tablets.

7 hours ago, odizzido said:

I don't think any buildings are ever above zero are they? I thought they were all around -4 or so.

As to snow causing hypothermia....if you're not doing anything and already freezing then sure. If you're pulling around 50kg of gear then eat all the snow you want.

For bacteria in the snow, they tend to cause problems when the temperature is hovering around zero so that water is liquid and bacteria can do their thing. From personal experience and the experience of at least a couple dozen people, I think you're going to be perfectly fine eating freshly fallen snow in -20 degrees

Houses are often > 0°C inside. About your remark on bacteria, it may make sense but I suppose they will not want to change the current mechanic. What I am proposing are additions which are not breaking current mechanics.

[yoli]

@Mistral had a nice proposal to make carcass harvesting more in line with current mechanics and realism, it is to enable fresh carcass harvesting with bare hands (fully, no tool required) starting from level 3 harvesting skill. I'd second this, probably the option that makes the most sense imo.