Some features I would like to see in the game

[mb77]

Hello friends. I know you're having a hard time. be persistent. Game design is hard work. I know that. How many people did I even cut out of my life while I was in this game design business? I wish you continued success.
Now let's get back to our topic.
Some desired features:

1st hand wagon. (The primitive iron rusty tool that we pump on the rails by pumping with our hands.)
2. Steam old type train (if there are rails, there is coal, why not go by train?)
(3rd idea is my friend's opinion)
3. a small machine. description: this vehicle is a tracked steam engine weighing between 80 and 100 kg. we will advance our vehicle with the steam engine and stove boiler that we found this machine ourselves. First we'll have to find the schematic. so this tool was built on an idea. this vehicle will drive on level ground. can climb hills. There should be a small box on it. Thus, we will be able to put the items in the excess inventory on us. We will pour clean water into the stove cauldron ourselves. When we burn the stove boiler, after the water boils, the excess steam will be mixed into the air from the discharge pipe. When we press the accelerator pedal, the discharge pipe cover will be closed. it will also power the steam engine. it will direct the steam there. so the steam engine will run. this will power the tracks from the gears as in normal vehicles. May be on wheels instead of pallets.

Kind regards.

[Admin]

Thank you for your suggestions! 

[Glflegolas]

A pumper car sounds fun! To be really effective, though, there would need to be a way to repair broken railway tracks (maybe with scrap metal).

The one issue with this would be the railcars sitting all over the tracks. That being said, a steam locomotive would make short work of those wagons.

[Razum]

Sry, but I think all of this is unrealistic. First of all: From a technical standpoint the maps aren't made for this. You would have to rebuild all the train tracks and put some system on it for all the repair stuff and any vehicle to drive on it. That effort would only be made, if it was really worth it.

Second: I think it wouldn't be worth, even destroy the feeling of TLD. TLD is about making the best from what you have. It lives from limitations. You suddenly being able to bring highly complex and powerful machines to work would clearly go against that philosophy. 
If you have a bike, you know, that you need some work put into it so that it works properly. If you have a car, you know, there's pretty much work you (or anyone) has to put into it, so it works properly. Things like trains need teams of people who regularly check everything (in a factory that has all tools needed). You alone being able to build and maintain such a train or tracked steam engine is unrealistic. Well, nobody stops Hinterland programming it like that. There's a car mod (or atleast was). But it would go against all logic.

The hand wagon would be discussable in that way. It's probably maintainable even by one person. You wouldn't be (or go) much faster than by foot, but you could take much more cargo with you. That alone would work. But still you would have to repair the tracks. Is it realistic to repair a train track alone? Well, since we're not talking about trains but just a hand wagon you wouldn't have to weld the tracks together where they are broken. But still, you would have to bend metal beams together close enough and you would have to fill gaps with new beams all while maintaining an equal distance between both metal beams. There's so much effort that it's not worth. Especially considering that there are frequently other wagons there, that you really cannot move. You wouldn't go far.

All this is considering a view from reality. You can program your game as you want, jumping 20m high, moving wagons with bare hands, having cars that can't be broken. The question is: What do you want to program in? Since TLD is oriented on reality, you shouldn't be able to do unrealistic things. So in my opinion, it's unrealistic seeing these things ingame at any point in the future (not just improbable).

[xanna]

I agree with @Razum generally (not thought about specifics). Whenever there's a thread of 'We should have xyz thing in game' I feel this way - game balance is hard and far-reaching work, and just because something is possible or realistic doesn't mean it would work in-game. But I view those threads as thought experiments more than genuine wishlist items and tend to ignore them and let people chat it out. There are very few new things I would want in-game, especially if they are conveniences or would make an aspect of the game easier - "It lives from limitations" is a great way of putting it.

[mb77]

@Razum My friend said: Thank you for your opinion. I respect your valuable comments. As a technician and engineer as well as a highly successful software engineer, I have a lot of knowledge in general. And based on my knowledge, I say that you give a puzzle to a child. A sufficiently mature child can easily do that puzzle. If you give the diagram to a fully mature person, if you also give the material, he will do the example in the diagram as if doing a puzzle. So the idea I gave is a completely doable tool. My dear beautiful sister, based on what you have just read and written, I am convinced that you are a naive person. That's why you should respect any information given. And you have to think about it, using your non-existent brain. After that you have to reply. My advice to you. You have to go out and travel and learn about life. It is not right to criticize by sitting at home at the computer. Go out, learn. Live life. Hunt deer. go fishing in the river.

 

My comment is: Thank you for your comments. However, the game turns into a walking simulation after a while. And the constant breathing of the character gets boring after a while. Being a vehicle makes the game more fun and makes walking a little easier, which is annoying. Oh, that doesn't mean that we should visit the whole map with a vehicle or a different object. After all, I don't think it will affect the classic difficulty and survival difficulty of the game and the spirit of the game too much, since there will be no vehicle passage on the roads going towards the mountain. I noticed that you are stuck on the train tracks a lot. However, I think this will add a different difficulty to the game as it will further customize the game and extend the game time. In general, I think it would be possible for the vehicle to come in the game, considering the whole player base. Kind regards.

[mb77]

@Glflegolas Thanks for your valuable comments.

 

[hozz1235]

On 5/30/2023 at 8:14 AM, Glflegolas said:

That being said, a steam locomotive would make short work of those wagons.

Or, allow us to harvest the wrecked railcars with our trusty hacksaw!   Think of all the scrap sitting there!