Multi Fire Heat


Ice Hole

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Could not believe what I was seeing.  But the proof is right here.

A single  :fire: at +14 degree Celsius beside a another :fire: at +8 degree Celsius  equals feels like +9 degree Celsius.

Adding a stick to the :fire: at +8 degree Celsius will increase the :fire:to +9 degree Celsius.  The new thing noticed was the increase in the feels like temperature when increasing the :fire: that is colder.  This must have been added a while ago during the cooking update but I never noticed before.  The only thing noticed was the light output was additive. 

This changes my :fire:strategy when cooking over multiple :fire::fire: when in a deep cold environment.

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Adding fuel to the colder:fire: increases the feels like temperature.  The  :fire::fire: output is additive.

There was a bug with :lantern: torch not providing heat and was fixed.  This could have been updated at that time.  Does anybody know?

 

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Actually, this has been in the game since forever. It comes of a very basic survival technique, where multiple fires are lit on outskirts of a camp to cummulate heat in the middle where the sleeping area would be. Sometimes its mitigated by the use of thermal blankets which are instead used to reflect heat from one fire and concentrate it on the the place where sleeping area is. Multiple fires are lit not only to keep wildlife out, but to conserve the heat in the middle of the camp. Usually it would be two or four fires, rarely three because three lit fires are also considered an SOS signal for all passing aircraft.

Yes, multiple campfires in the area do indeed cumulate their heating effect. This has several uses in TLD. For starters, when cooking multiple items quickly by the use of several campfires, if you put em closely enough you dont need to over-feed one fire to serve as a heating fire, they all do together. 

For when sleeping outside where wind is a possibility, liting several fires in different spots of the camp can be a pretty certain way of maintaining at least one fire even if the wind changes and blows some of the other fires out. Fires should be placed in the most protected parts of the map if possible to prevent wind, still, even in rare occurences, wind may get in and blow it out, so having at least two fires in areas protected against wind from different directions is a great idea.

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On 4/9/2019 at 11:53 AM, Mroz4k said:

this has been in the game since forever.

The first time I can remember starting multiple fires was when cartography started and charcoal was limited.  Did not remember seeing this temperature change at that time. 

 

On 4/9/2019 at 11:53 AM, Mroz4k said:

three lit fires are also considered an SOS signal for all passing aircraft.

Thanks for posting the survival knowledge.

The question remains unanswered is that do multiple fires produce more heat than a single :fire: using the same amount of fuel.  

 

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8 hours ago, Ice Hole said:

The question remains unanswered is that do multiple fires produce more heat than a single :fire: using the same amount of fuel.  

A good question worth investigating.  I would think though, that if they are indeed additive and not multiplicative that any fuel added to any fire in range will have the same overall temperature effect, meaning that multiple fires wouldn't produce more heat than a single fire using the same amount of fuel.

However, as mentioned by @Mroz4k, there may still be an advantage in that multiple fires could be placed in such a way as to mitigate the chance that you will lose fire completely as the wind changes.

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Tested heat output of fire in a cave.  The results indicate that there is no advantage to heat output when using multiple fires.  The only advantage is the increase in cooking surfaces and wind tolerance.

Used twenty four sticks to make a single fire, two fires of twelve sticks and three fires using eight sticks.  The burn time is also evenly divided.  A twenty four sticks fire has three hour duration, twelve sticks have one and half hour duration, eight stick fire has one hour duration.

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The same heat output was observed over all three tests.  The conclusion is a single fire has the greatest duration and has the same heat output as multiple fires.  

This test has  an interesting offshoot notion.  Since multiple fires are cumulative then what would be the maximum Feels Like temperature achievable.  

Be right back with some test results.

edit:

Maximum air temperature is forty degree Celsius.

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