SuperStriker16

I made a knife, hatchet, and 8 arrowheads. (6 in the picture but I found more scrap and made 2 more) and are now heading back to the camp office.

Made it to the forge, now going to make a hatchet, knife and a few arrowheads. After this I’m gonna head back to mystery lake and work on getting a bow.

The poll is now closed, thanks for your responses, and your reasoning, all has been taken into consideration. Mystery lake Camp Office has won the poll.

They just had to go in and mess up tool spawns, they were right when they said “removed some of the predictability from the game”. It’s fine though, now we get to explore again!

The one I found like I said my post, was in a mystery lake fishing cabin by the door. In the past I’ve found them in Hibernia, signal hill, and most in the hydro dam, but that was before the update. I hope this helps but unfortunately if it was easy to find one, then it wouldn’t have taken me so long. Good luck surviving!

To end the night off with a bang, I was finally able to find a heavy hammer in one of the fishing huts on mystery lake by the door, hope this helps anyone currently in a situation like me. That doesn’t have one, next stop, forlorn muskeg forge! Good night everyone.

Made it to misery lake and had a follower chase me since the dam, anyway, I’m now going to establish this as my base since it’s now impossible for other locations to win, I’m closing the poll as everyone seems to have voted. I will be hunting rabbits, and looking for a heavy hammer as it’s the only thing holding me back from the greater interloper survival experience, no bow means it’s hard to stay someplace for a long time, I’ll be going next to get what I can out of trapper’s cabin, and then to the forlorn muskeg forge. If not there, then I will go to broken railroad and check that region. Hopefully I will continue to survive. IMG_0101.MOV

Broken elbows?

You might’ve just revealed my next idea for things they can add to the game😂.

Thank you all for your help, I’m just now getting home and will now be able to get back to my game. I will test your ideas, hopefully I’ll find one.

I see what you mean, I’m trying to think of things that would make the game more realistic, more fun, or just recommend cool new attention to detail like features while trying to stay with the theme of the game so it doesn’t lose its identity as you say. I know what you mean and want the best for this game, which is why I’m trying to add realism to the game, because that’s what this is. I’ve played green hell and fallout 4 but this game is completely different to those, and I’m not trying to tear it down to their level because I think TLD is easily the best survival game on the market, but I’m trying my best to make it the most realistic survival game out there. I appreciate your concern.

Fitness skill Level Skill points Effects 1 0 -25% wolf struggle effectiveness -25% harvesting speed + 20% fatigue gain 2 15 -10% wolf struggle effectiveness -10% harvesting speed + 10% fatigue gain 3 30 Neutral no buffs, no debuffs. 4 50 +10% wolf struggle effectiveness +10% harvesting speed +5% more stamina +5% more condition - 10% fatigue gain 5 100 +25% wolf struggle effectiveness +25% harvesting speed +15% more stamina +15% more condition -20% fatigue gain Here is the edited chart with your suggestion. I like it.

Maybe at 4 and 5 there could be a -10% fatigue and -20% fatigue but then at 1 and 2 they would have to be changed. Good idea.

That works too, I didn’t think about cabin fever, but I like that.

Fitness skill Level Skill points Effects 1 0 -25% wolf struggle effectiveness -25% harvesting speed 2 15 -10% wolf struggle effectiveness -10% harvesting speed 3 30 Neutral no buffs, no debuffs. 4 50 +10% wolf struggle effectiveness +10% harvesting speed +5% more stamina +5% more condition 5 100 +25% wolf struggle effectiveness +25% harvesting speed +15% more stamina +15% more condition The fitness skill is how physically fit your player character is, every day is 1 skill point meaning after 100 days, you get all of these benefits. There wouldn’t be a skill book for this skill.

We could go with that, I guess eliminate hunting from the equation, then you have 4-5 hours to read. Wait a minute, if your killing moose with a bow, you must have skills, definitely in archery at least, but that would require arrowheads, which would require you to forge, which would require you to have a heavy hammer and time to prepare as well as a bow which requires a knife which requires a forge trip, which requires a heavy hammer, and so on. You get my point, killing a moose and skinning it and hauling all the meat All the way to a source of books Is logistically straining and would require skills. I just don’t think it would be worth it, all this prep to read 20 books over 30-40 days. Books only work up to level 3 which you’ll already have by this time. Unless you’re trying to increase gunsmithing or ice fishing in interloper, it wouldn’t be worth it. It would be better done intermittently whenever you have extra time on your hands.

If they want to they could do that, I’m not hinterland though.

Yes, each one would have its own time like a skill book, if it’s nessesary, then half the amount of books in the world, like I said, if hinterland were to implement this, they would balance it to their liking.

Which is significantly more than what you’d get from a random book, plus you’d know what skills your getting with a specific skill book. Let’s say 80 for ease of calculation and because it’s a ridiculously large amount. Those would require 15 days of straight reading (360 hours). If every point was spread evenly to each skill, you would gain 40 points into each skill, getting you almost up to level 3 in all skills, which is a lot but rng is rng which is bad for interlopers that just wasted a third of those skill points into skills that don’t matter in interloper, (rifle, revolver, and gunsmithing) and that also is assuming you didn’t read any duds, (25% of books don’t give skill). Fifteen days of straight studying day and night is way too long for any loper player to read, let’s say this is your daily schedule (which is pretty forgiving for loper) 9 pm - 9 am sleep or passing time. 9 am - 10 am cooking the morning’s meat, venison, ( about 1800 kcal ) 10 am - 1 pm going out hunting for the next day’s meal, or could be replaced with looking for gear. 1 pm - 3 pm reading, for whatever reason (let’s say you were trapped In because of bad weather) 3 pm - 5 pm chopping pallets for wood. 5 pm - 7 pm making things/repairing things 7 pm - 8 pm boiling water (can’t live off of the dam’s toilet water forever) 8 pm - 9 pm cooking dinner, (also 1800 kcal of venison) sleep, rinse, repeat this already relaxed schedule gives 2 hours of time to read, it would take 180 days to read all of those books. At that point your skills I’d hope are above level 3, you’d already be in field dressing, bow, cooking, sewing, fire starting, not ice fishing but ain’t no one got time for that. this also would require you to be at each location until you’ve read all of those books, meaning you would be moving your base multiple times just to read these books. Checkmate upupaway 95

You got it wrong, 1skill point in a random skill per hour, that is gained once the book is read. 2h book = 2 random points into random skill. odds are you aren’t going to have days and days as you say. Especially in interloper when you need to constantly hunt and scavenge to survive, I’m assuming the wood in the dam that your talking about are pallets that take 1-2 1/2 hours to break down each, if if your able to kill a moose with just a bow, I’d also assume that most of your skills are almost or are at level 3 already, when books don’t work anymore. So at that point you’ll be burning those books anyways.

Ah yes, I also come up with names for all the regions, misery lake, costal die way, desolation point is already a depressing name, and so on.

Players on pilgrim wouldn’t have a problem getting large amounts of skill points early anyway and pilgrim is so easy that it wouldn’t matter in the end, and most people only play pilgrim only play to get a feel for the game and maps, so the long term doesn’t matter. If you need a book to start a fire do you really think they have the 2-8 hours needed to read a book before even starting it? Plus these books give the points randomly anyway, unlike a skill book that focuses on one skill so you only would get 2-8 points in random skills that you don’t choose for hours of sacrificed time. A fair trade when you don’t have any more skill books to read I’d say, because at that point, you wouldn’t have a point for these 15-30 books that you keep bringing up. Thank you Leeanda for looking at other things than just a minor issue. It’s just a proposal of an idea, If it’s too overpowered and hinterland considers it, they would make it more balanced to the way they like it before adding the ability to read random books anyway.

No, I said useless in the mid-late game when your fire starting skill is already high enough to almost guarantee a fire with Matches and a stick, I mean, there’s literally a perk that makes books redundant and their .5 kilos a piece so thinking you would carry those 15-30 books anyway doesn’t make sense, plus the time invested in each one is a lot, making reading them restricted to being a mid late game only activity when your not scavenging supplies and food to survive, but a good thing to do, to get rid of cabin fever in your snow shelter while you have nothing to do.

I’m currently in Unpleasant Valley in my interloper run, and have no clue where a heavy hammer might be due to the changes in item spawn locations. If anyone knows where a heavy hammer is or could be anywhere near PV, please post it here.

Maybe it could be 1 random point per hour of reading, that would be more balanced, I’m just trying to give a mid-late game useless item some use. Or maybe there would be a chance to not get any points, but that would frustrate players. My original idea was 2.5 points per hour and the books would be 2-8 hours long reading time so with an 8 hour book would give 20 points, but if each hour gave one point then it would be balanced.