SnowWalker

Lol, I probably wont' though. Once you've seen that new book design, you've seen them all.

Yeah, come to think of it the game wouldn't allow us to make a fire up there anyway, probably. Anyway, cool.

@Carbon Awesome shots. Did you have a fire going in the lighthouse or something? Love that lighthouse one and the foggy yellow shot.

Beautiful, breathtaking actually.

Yeah, they're awesome though. Not sure if I'd give it a go since it does seem a bit complicated and yes time consuming but you never know if something will ever come up where I'd like to try that.

Hhaha, I was going to get a shot like this last night when I found the book too, but I forgot. You beat me to it

Those are awesome Ross. I don't even know how to make gif, lol.

I hope so too but you'd think after all these years that most of the game development is finished.

So you're saying Winter means change?

That's the bummer thing about games with episodes with the inevitable cliffhangers. You have to wait way longer than you would for TV shows with cliffhangers.

I haven't forgotten about it. It's all very puzzling to say the least.

It would be cool but the way it's going to be is probably already set in stone.

Me too! And the end would be cool also if you're just playing one or the other but one of them is an npc who goes along with you. Any of those scenarios would be awesome.

I think Mathis is lying through his teeth because I guess he wants what's in that case so bad. I think she got away and is hiding and fending for herself in the wilderness. Hence the part in the Wintermute trailer where she's aiming her bow at something, or someone. The case though...I mean, an axe would break that thing wide open like nothing. Hell you could probably shoot it open. For Mathis to care so much about what's in some stupid case is weird too though? Does he know what's in it? How does he know what's in it? He seemed just curious about it. It's a post apocalyptic world now where anything that was of value before is now invaluable. A good rifle is more valuable than a barrel full of gold. Why does he care about the case so much? Also, in a post apocalyptic world, there's no police force left either. Why does he give a shit about anything except for saving his own skin?

You guys are really digging deep with speculation. It's almost comparable to 'Game of Thrones' or 'The Walking Dead' speculation Using Astrid because she's a doctor seems plausible. The only thing I find curious is, why would they, or he, keep her around after she's done with what they wanted?

Well, stupidest, here goes. Way back when we first got Timberwolf Mountain and when the nights were still blacker than black, I got lost in the dark right behind Mountaineer's. And I mean, right behind it. During the day I had wandered around for hours and finally found that cabin for the first time. A letsplayer by the YouTube name of aldershot8008 and I were both exploring TW for the first time and at the same time. I found Mountaineer's first And, I think I died in TW first too. So I find the cabin late in the day and go inside for awhile and dump a bunch of stuff since I'm sticking around for awhile...the cabin's the only place I've found so far besides some plane crash parts that were no good to me. I dumped all my wood on the floor. I didn't have any flares left since I'd used all that I found on some wolves. I fiddled and farted around until I noticed that the temp in the cabin was not great. I got to worrying about getting through the night if I didn't have enough wood. So, I went out back to scout for more wood even though it was getting dark. I can't really see well and can't see any big limbs around which is what I wanted. All of a sudden it's pitch black and I don't even have so much as stick on me. I mean, I'm only a stone's throw from the cabin. Also, my lantern is dryer than a popcorn fart. I stumble around forever in the dark and I can't see anything. It's very cold and I'm losing condition rapidly. I wander and wander, stumble and fall and I just can't find anything that looks looks like anything. I couldn't even find the lake again. I finally fade into the long dark....this time literally I learned a bunch of lessons from that one....but....I found that cabin! It was the first time to visit TW and I die there on the first night.......the first time I died on Timberwolf Mountain...but not the last, lol. I can't believe in one story I've used the word fart...twice

She could have left him a msg in the snow though, made with some stones, just in case he climbed out....GONE TO GET HELP As for Jeremiah, I got nothing. I have no idea what that old codger's up to, but he def knows something more than what he's letting on. I don't like to believe that he has any ill will toward Will though, nor toward Astrid. I know that whatever Astrid wanted to do or wants to do, had to have been noble, and Will just wants to keep her safe. I know this because she seems noble and she's one of our heroes Anyway, we won't know these things for awhile and I've got other things to worry about right now, like----> I don't want to kill the Outsider on the 15th when the expansion dlc drops for Dishonored 2 !!

Well I did say in another comment that I would accept that maybe she couldn't get down to him and went for help but when she reaches the road runs into trouble with some ne'er-do-wells. Still though, I hope there's a good explanation for why someone would want to abduct some woman? And not just some story about a prisoner thwarting everyone's efforts for basically no real reason anymore. It's an apocalypse, what can you possibly gain from kidnapping ordinary people? You should only be worrying about saving your own skin.

Maybe Astrid knows a lot about 'the event' and she knows how to turn it around and she's trying to do that, but these eco-terrorists don't want her to, or someone doesn't. But if you're not finished the story so far I can't say more on this.

Now that is something that I can believe and I hope it's what happened.

Btw, I might be assuming but so are you. We all are and we have little choice but to wonder about what's happened and about the plot since it's going to be awhile since we get any answers. But I'm not going to accept that she just runs away and leaves Will there to die no matter what her dire circumstance is or that she was abducted right out of the wreckage.

What? He's a prisoner, hence the orange prison garb, and he says he has Astrid. No missile shot down that plane, the plane crashed because it lost electrical due to the aurora. They would have known if they were shot down with a missile or whatever and would have little chance for survival after that if history has taught us anything. Even if it was sabotaged, how did these diabolical people, or person know exactly where the plane would crash? They had to have been right there waiting for it since when Will comes to there are still flames from the wreckage. In my eyes it feels like a thin plot with a lot of holes, but then again who knows, maybe it will surprise us and the story will become something huge like you mention, even though so far it's been fairly simplistic. Maybe the guy is more than a prisoner, even though that is what the story leads us to believe. I like the game and the story is 'okay', so far. I've seen far worse stories that we're supposed to swallow.

Well that's even more far-fetched. There just happens to be some prison escapee's wondering around in the mountains who see the plane crash and decide they've just gotta go and see if there's anything of value up there or if anyone survived the crash and then decide to abduct one survivor? Why? It makes zero sense and even the prisoners must know that something strange has happened to the world but they aren't worried about it like everyone else and just decide to ransack a crashed plane? Also far fetched that they'd rummage through a plane crash to see if they can get themselves a hostage? They wouldn't need a hostage in this particular situation anyway and they must realize that. To me, doesn't add up.

I found it strange that she took off and left Will to die at the cash anyway. Why does that always happen in game plane crashes? Whomever you were with in the plane just takes off by themselves and leaves you there without even checking on you, and now you must go out and find them.