Catlover

Welcome! I completely agree, it is a great game. And I hope you'll enjoy the forums here just as much 🙂

16 minutes ago, Admin said:

We don't have any news to share at this time, but we will be sure to post an update as soon as more information is available. Thank you for reaching out. 

Alright, thank you for responding

I hope there will be another WE, but of course I'd completely understand if the team is busy with more important things

I don't know if there is a definite answer for this but is WE going to be on this year? Of course it's fine if you guys, hinterland, have bigger priorities but I thought I'd ask

23 hours ago, Smellyfries said:

83.

Accidentally start reloading your rifle when a wolf charges you. (True Story)

Or when it gets jammed 😫 Even worse when there's a bear chasing you

85. Your rifle gets jammed when a bear charges you (also a true story) 

11 minutes ago, UpUpAway95 said:

I disagree that TLD philosophy has to be all about "survival" and "not camping."   For some it is, but this game is flexible enough at its core that it can be all about "camping" and still be enjoyable by a wide variety of players.  Raph himself said that he was designing the game to enable the player to make "thoughtful decisions."  In the intro, the game is stated to be about "adapting."

PS:  To  the OP and others, please relax as this is only post I intend to make on this thread... no arguments from me this day. 😀

Well said and I completely agree. It's like a bit of a mix between surviving and camping

And don't worry, there are no arguments about that from me 🙂

11 minutes ago, Digitalzombie said:

If anything is not working and you want to play immediately, you can install the mods that are making trouble.

Then we need your logfile (inside your TLD folder -> MelonLoader folder -> "latest.log") to identify and fix the problem.

Alright! Thanks

I've not had a chance to look myself, has anyone noticed any mods not working? I have quite a few and I'm not quite sure how this update has impacted them.

If I do notice any mods not working, I'll put it in this thread.

Oh, and if any mods don't work, what do I do? Do I just uninstall them? Thanks! 

Thank you hinterland, for your hard work! Those bugs must be a pain to fix. I'll be looking forward to your next update! Can't wait to see what is planned for later updates. 

Hopefully this won't impact my mods too much🤞

7 hours ago, Admin said:

 

After the update, the key should respawn and become accessible in your current game. Thanks again for your patience! 

Good to know, thank you! 

On 4/2/2022 at 8:39 PM, piddy3825 said:

damn, you should probably clean your guns more often...

Does it not jam when it has a higher condition? Interesting... 

3 hours ago, Pablo_Loko said:

Rechecked more precisely how much water is consumed (interloper). Last time I mistakenly wrote liters instead of milliliters.

So, to completely quench your thirst, you need 0.7 liters. For 7 hours of reading books or 10 hours of sleep, we completely use up our water supply. Therefore, we need 2 liters of water per day (14 hours of reading + 10 hours of sleep = 3 times of complete thirst quenching).

camel 1 /thirst comes 50% slower / - drink 2000 liters of water

camel 2 /thirst comes 25% slower / - drink 1000 liters of water

camel 3 /thirst comes 10% slower / - drink 200 liters of water

Once again, I remind you that the numbers require balancing. Not all of the above exploits have been tested by me and exist in this topic as an idea. Thank you all for your criticism and doubts.

Those are much better, imo. They'd take a while to get but are completely possible without grinding for hours

And I apologise if I had seen overly harsh before, I was simply stating my opinion and I feel that now you've changed them now to much better levels

8 hours ago, stmSantana said:

I don't want people who play TLDs for the first time to look at the spoiler map for suspense and excitement if possible.
However, each person has their own way of enjoying the game. So I don't call looking at a map a cheat.
Some people like to play while looking at the map and should tolerate it. Some even enjoy relaxing play while looking at the map on the easiest difficulty level.
Someone said, " Stop the 'survival not camping'. "

Well said. The game is there for you to enjoy however you want. 

I personally try not to use maps but I often do when I'm lost, it lets me know where to go and I find most of the way through memory. 

I do agree with @Leeanda, maps certainly have their uses. Well the op is right about maps somewhat tainting the experience of a new run, they are there to be used or not to be, whatever suits your playstyle

6 minutes ago, peteloud said:

With the help of mods it is possible to start an Interloper game like this,

Mods can change the nature of the chanllenge, and game.

Not all mods are cheats, some are primarily decorative.

 

Ah, you mean you just load into the game with bearskin items? I have to agree with you then, with those kinds of mods. It would take the experience away if you could just start with them, or something. After all, isn't half of the game just freezing to death  

1 minute ago, Pablo_Loko said:

And also against the fact that feats that seriously affect the gameplay are obtained for 5 cents. What did you want? Eat a couple of kilograms of meat, drink a couple of liters of water and get a great bonus to hunger and thirst?! By the way, you will spend 3 million calories and 3 million liters of water at the most difficult level of difficulty, approximately, in 1000 game days...

I honestly seriously doubt players drink or eat that much. Of course I don't know, but it just seems like way too big a number. 

And yes, I do want them to be challenging and hard to get, though it just seems like with yours, they border on near impossible with some. Perhaps you eat about 30,000, maybe even 50,000 calories for a lower bonus? Still a large number, but something that is possible to get after a while

22 minutes ago, ChillPlayer said:

Yes I think so too - and anyone claming that survival is harder than camping, cleary has never been camping with two or more kids for several weeks

Haha never tried that, by the sounds of it, not sure if I want to!  Completely agree though

12 minutes ago, Bearimpaler101 said:

Sorry that was autocorrect by more I  meant mods 

Ohh it’s ok, that makes more sense. I do agree, it does sound like it should be a mod if it were ever added

23 minutes ago, Bearimpaler101 said:

I just think that feats are supposed to make the game easier in some ways especially if you wanna do interloper but are crap at it (if so I can relate[I only have free runner]) but changing the gameplay like 2 way struggle with bear and moose I think that should be more not feats (only my opinion) but @CatloverI'm sorry but he was saying 300 thousand calories or liters of water not 3million I'm sorry if it seems like I meant any of this rudely I didn't but it's my input

You didn't seem rude at all. I took a closer look and it has two sets of three zeros which I believe makes a million, or three million in this case. 🙂

And I agree, though what do you mean by it should be more not feats? Do you mean it should be in the game without needing said feat for it? 

1 hour ago, Pablo_Loko said:

 

Food poisoning can be provoked intentionally by eating raw meat. Meat from one bear or moose can technically give you 40 food poisoning. Therefore, you need to kill and devour a total of 25 bears or moose to get this feat. For one survival it is quite real!

I have to say, I don't like the fact you have to grind for your feat ideas. I like earning them as I play, feels more rewarding, yet how am I going to accidentally get food poisoning that much? 

And a couple of yours do feel somewhat impossible such as:

On 3/31/2022 at 6:33 PM, Pablo_Loko said:

Santa's deer / bonus +5 degrees to the temperature / - live 50 days in a row without clothes at maximum difficulty

20 hours ago, Pablo_Loko said:

iron man / the ability to maim or kill a moose with an axe or knife in close combat / - cure 50 times a rib fracture

rabid /the ability to maim or kill a.ear with an axe or knife in close combat / - survive 100 bear attacks

On 3/31/2022 at 6:33 PM, Pablo_Loko said:

glutton /calories are burned 50% slower/ - consume 3000000 calories

camel / thirst comes 50% slower/ - drink 3000000 liters of water

Perhaps this one is possible, but only with a lot of grinding. I like how the feats ingame are possible to get through just playing the game, though some take a while it's certainly doable. Eating three million calories or drinking three million litres of water would just take forever. You have to take into account that though a feat is meant to be hard, it has to be doable.

And the moose and bear one though it isn't too hard to get, like @Bearimpaler101said, it would make it easier. And it seems very unrealistic, the fact you can harm or even kill such strong beasts with a knife

Some of yours I do like 

On 3/31/2022 at 6:33 PM, Pablo_Loko said:

meticulous / the probability of finding a box of matches in the car visor/ - inspect 1000 visors in the car

This one seems possible, along with some others, though my point remains the same. In my opinion they need to be hard, but doable without a lot of grinding

Of course, this is all my opinion. Maybe you like the challenge of grinding, but I thought I'd just share my opinion and I apologise if it seems harsh or anything 🙂

13 minutes ago, ChillPlayer said:

What's wrong with camping? Asking for a friend.

Nothings wrong with camping! That’s often quite a fun way to play tld, and a fun thing to do irl 🙂

2 hours ago, peteloud said:

The most suspense-filled, exciting days when playing TLD are when you don't know the region, don't know where you are, when the mist comes down, you are tired & cold and don't where you can shelter.  Use of maps, mods and loot tables take away those days.

Agreed! Though I have one question, how would mods take it away? They add a bunch of stuff to the game that arguably make the game easier in some cases, though I haven't found it to take away the anxiety-fueled enjoyment that tld gives when I'm lost. Some mods, if anything, seem to enhance the experience (such as placing anywhere, ambient lighting)

I agree with everything else said, I was just a bit curious to know your opinion as personally, I'm not sure how using mods can take away the experience.

2 minutes ago, JMK said:

Yup, can be.

Hmmm, what would define a "perfect" world ? 😁 (just kidding, don't even try, world is that's it end of story, perfection has no meaning in itself, perfection is limited to a context)

About discussion, it is interesting to read  "The art of beeing right" by Arthur Shopenhauer, the preliminary expose the necessity and healthiness of challenging ideas (the bright side of rethoric), and how it is distorded in tricks to have your opinion prevail at all cost (the dark side). Available for free in PDF, public domain, not too long and it really help identify tricks that politicians are very keen on lol (like claiming victory when you lose)

Allright, back to blackrock now 😉

 

Have fun! Still trying to navigate that place myself, I'll admit 

And thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out!

1 hour ago, manolitode said:

I think most agree that politeness and constructive feedback is both admirable and preferable. Though, striving for "no arguing" is in my opinion a dead end that tend to choke healthy discussions. Disagreement and even conflict can be healthy, disparaging comments can't. From my experience, forum members who do the latter tend to get reprimanded by the community. I know that the "no arguing" urging comes from a good place but there are no forums or groups anywhere that are pure and free from disagreement and sometimes harshness.

That is true. I just wish it was possible to discuss differences in a less hurtful way though you do have a very good point. 

Perhaps locking this thread would be a good idea as the phrase I was mentioning has not been used for a while, and I don't want to argue over something (survival not camping) which is now rather pointless 

24 minutes ago, JMK said:

In the exemple above that you provided yourself, I see absolutely nothing to be offended about.

And frankly, I see nothing in all your exemples.

I completely agree, nothing was wrong with that post I had quoted. I was giving examples to another member to provide context and the fact other players have been recently using it. 

I did mention, if I remember correctly, about how that post was not offensive. I didn't want to fill the thread with just one person using said phrase. And surely there is a nicer way to sharing an opinion. That said, I do agree and admit there was little point adding in that quote. I stand corrected on that front 🙂 

24 minutes ago, JMK said:

 

24 minutes ago, JMK said:

Sometimes, opinions are a bit harsh, ok, so what ? As long as it is sustained by comprehensives points

 

(not sure why the quote thing went a bit weird) 

This however, I disagree on. There is a different between a little harsh and being downright impolite. If people disagree, they can do so in a politer manner, not just 'it doesn't make the game harder, therefore it's bad', like I'm sure you've seen. If you say something offensive or harsh but it's sustained by some sort of point, that doesn't automatically make it ok.

I can understand your points, and agree with some, however it's clearthat neither one of us will agree with each others opinions and that's fine, of course. Everyone has different opinions, though I feel that it's best that we agree to disagree. 

Edit, after all, I've not seen anyone use the phrase in a long time so I see no point in wasting each others time debating about this. 
 

1 hour ago, JMK said:

I don't see how you see people summerazing TLD phylosophy (survival not camping) as insulting or unpolite.

Hinterworks has made choices that makes this game what it is and unlike many others, "survival not camping" is just a way to remind what TLD is about.

And I see opinions sustained in the exemple provided which you can hardly call trolling. A troll doesn't bother to sustain anything, his purpose is to make you waste time, not him.

I can see your point, though I politely disagree. 

It is not the phrase that is impolite, it is the way its used. Yes, it might technically be a survival game, but it (the phrase) is now used to put other players, and their ideas down. Just because they aren't hardcore survival loperists. If it were just used harmlessly, this thread would not exist. 

I see no issue with the term if it is used like how you said, just to remind others of what it's about, but, like many things, it's the context that then can make it offensive. 

Maybe not offensive, thinking about it, but it's certainly not polite. Though my examples were not of trolls, is that behaviour really acceptable in this community? Does them not being trolls make them any less impolite?

And I apologise if this sounds rude, I do respect and understand your views and I hope you can do the same with mine

8 hours ago, twyn1 said:

Ha -- trying to face down a Moose with a revolver could very well be a sign of Long Dark insanity 😉

I'm fairly sure I've read all the available books for 'Small Arms'. This run is over 500 days and I've explored everywhere extensively, except for HRV. Was thinking of heading there to check for a book, but not sure it's worth all the time wandering about, at this point. 

Yep, hoping for an update soon ...

I don’t know if you have been on the paradise meadows thread but the admin has mentioned that they are close to releasing an update. Not sure if it’s simply a small one to fix the bugs, but I thought I’d let you know 🙂 

Curious to see if you could take a moose down with a revolver! And don’t worry about insanity, I feel like anyone willing to take the suffering and hardships that TLD gives you makes the vast majority of players a little crazy 😉