harvesting bug

[Even Dark]

i got skill lvl 5 in carcass harvesting

quarter a deer takes now with skill lvl 5 1:30? or it is a bug

and if i harvesting a meat bag or a rabbit i need a tool first. hands are just working if i use a tool first to get me as example 0.5 kg meat then after this i can use my hands.

 

[LostRealist]

11 hours ago, Even Dark said:

and if i harvesting a meat bag or a rabbit i need a tool first. hands are just working if i use a tool first to get me as example 0.5 kg meat then after this i can use my hands.

This is intended, an incision must be made first, either by a tool or by a set of wolf teeth. It's explained in the latest release notes.

[Even Dark]

ah ok, why make it simple when it can be complicated, i mean the meat bag isn't really there  but rather quartered parts.

[Even Dark]

ok 1 month later :D....

if i take 1 piece of meat from a corpse i can get me after this all from hand.... so then if i have the meat i quarter the corpse...... (2 times using a tool)

if i quarter 1st and get me 7 meatbags i need to cut every meatbag? (8 times using a tool)

so meatbags should be work by hand the 1st cut is starting quartering...

 

ptamrigan - > 4 feather 2 Hours Oo 

Edited January 19 by Even Dark

[xanna]

42 minutes ago, Even Dark said:

ptamrigan - > 4 feather 2 Hours Oo 

See here for explanation of ptarmigan down harvesting. Spoiler: it's not 4 feathers, and 2 hours is not unreasonable.

 

[Even Dark]

6 hours ago, xanna said:

See here for explanation of ptarmigan down harvesting. Spoiler: it's not 4 feathers, and 2 hours is not unreasonable.

 

ok so not 4 feathers  who say this 2 hours are not unreasonable  

a chicken if you put it short in hot boiled water tooks under 5 mins  to get all feathers (maybe a cocking version would be nice to have and lets dry the feathers then)

and a rabbit you can harvest after a little cut complete in under 20 minutes
 

Edited January 19 by Even Dark

[xanna]

8 minutes ago, Even Dark said:

ok so not 4 feathers  who say this 2 hours are not unreasonable  

a chicken if you put it short in hot boiled water tooks under 5 mins  to get all feathers (maybe a cocking version would be nice to have and lets dry the feathers then)

and a rabbit you can harvest after a little cut complete in under 20 minutes
 

Ah. My calculation of whether it's reasonable is based on comparisons to other things in the game, and the amount of benefit you get from the down. It's not based on comparisons to real-life. If we start doing that too much of TLD unravels. Harvesting times and stuff like that are based much more on game-balancing than realism, I expect.

[Even Dark]

13 hours ago, xanna said:

Ah. My calculation of whether it's reasonable is based on comparisons to other things in the game, and the amount of benefit you get from the down. It's not based on comparisons to real-life. If we start doing that too much of TLD unravels. Harvesting times and stuff like that are based much more on game-balancing than realism, I expect.

but it must make sense a little bit. a bear with 27kg + hide you can do this in around 3 hours with a knife.. a little ptarmigan has the same time  or 2 rabbits. game balancing no, not really i see now different if they lower the time it just feels better

Edited January 20 by Even Dark

[Even Dark]

oh there is another bug, if you have a torch in the hand and harvest a corpse the torch duration is still the same after you are done

[xanna]

5 hours ago, Even Dark said:

but it must make sense a little bit. a bear with 27kg + hide you can do this in around 3 hours with a knife.. a little ptarmigan has the same time  or 2 rabbits. game balancing no, not really i see now different if they lower the time it just feels better

I think the right answer would be to reduce the amount of down per bird, maybe 2 lots instead of 4. That way it's about an hour per bird, which feels a bit more realistic, reduce the amount of complaints, and it also makes getting to the improvised insulation and down bedroll take longer, which is good as they're a bit OP.