Siago

On 3/17/2021 at 6:20 PM, Pillock said:

I haven't finished Episode 3 yet. I, too, got annoyed with the Timberwolves and just abandoned it.

I've always played Survival Mode with Timberwolves switched off ever since!

How can you switch off Timberwolves? 🤔I just heard u can just avoid them in survival mode by not going to the "Timberwolf area"

Ok, thanks for the information ✌️ So I'll try the survival mode cause "regular" animals I can get but this Timberwolfs are driving me crazy 😫I thought that the story mode is the "main" game but I can see now that maybe it's only a preparation for the "real" game 🤔Still I would like to play not so stressful game with an interesting story as in the beginning. But thanks anyway!

15 hours ago, Syraith said:

I do apologize, after reading my comment I think I was a little harsh. I’ll try to simplify my point and not sound like a lecture.

A developer has two primary objectives making a game.

- Satisfy investors

- Maintain product quality.

The first point I think was nailed 100%. They crowd funded and released (as far as I know) the game they wanted and promised. 
The second point I do feel is also satisfied. They have addressed bugs and have a very solid game released.

Beyond that, anything else new is up to them. They can cut out and work on something else, close down, or expand existing content.

The game they released is a survival adventure, and as I mentioned, has a story mode that is setup as an expanded tutorial. The main game, as you can see by the content released since the game went public, and based on the content in this forum and online, is the sandbox survival mode.

I played the story mode on Pilgrim. Simply because I wanted to get the basics and move on. But I don’t know any game that doesn’t get more difficult the further you go in. 
 

I see your point, but can only say learn more about how to play. Timber wolves are a danger yes. Shoot at them until the moral meter is empty and run through. Maybe kill one in the process. You should easily have the ammo. Use a marine flare and watch your step. There are ways around them.

Bears can sneak up on you. Listen, look around and just watch your step. They don’t hunt like wolves, they are easy to avoid, especially once you get used to their patrol paths and spawn locations. 
 

Most importantly though, use the save option. It’s a luxury that doesn’t exist in survival. 
 

I get your frustration but at the same time just ask to respect the wish of the developer. If they wanted to have a simple walk in the park story, they would have done so. Enjoy the brilliance that they present and put the effort in. I promise it’s worth it!

Ok I understand your arguments but still I liked the game more earlier even if I'm learning the mechanics. Maybe also the problem is I'm playing on laptop so it's hard to manage the controls...idk

At least can you tell me if in survival mode on the easy level there are also animals attacking you?

21 hours ago, Stinky socks said:

@Siago, it will be slightly uphill in episode three if you haven't gotten there already, because you will have to deal with Timberwolves and they work in packs and attack even on easy mode. 

This game is a little bit unique in its difficulty because I've mentioned it somewhere, some things aren't very intuitive and some spots are quite tough even on easy, but be strong, you'll love it!:)

Yeah I'm already there and managed to get 2 surivivors and found the 2 others but I just got killed again by the Timberwolfs even that I shot one of them (I know u need to shoot more if there are more) and I'm running out of food etc. so I'm frustrated again. I'm seriously thinking about quitting and watching the gameplays till the end but I want to end this episode since I got so far  I'm making saves so I can always get back. But thanks anyway for the good words

On 3/13/2021 at 11:17 AM, mfuegemann said:

You can hold timberwolfs at bay with flares. Both types work but with marine flares, You should keep Your distance, as closing up too much leads to a brief attack.
Normal flares are chasing the wolfs away most of the times, so You can chase them - very satisfying 😉 
Throwing flares depletes moral too (if You hit or come close) and You can grab the flare again for protection and another try.

Just checked on the way to the crash site at PV in Wintermute - Capable Survivor.

Also I just learned on YT that the snow shelter protects u from the attacks of animals and u can shot them from there so I will definitely make one. But first I have to  kill/scare the Timberwolfs that attacks me right now and collect the sticks and cloths to make a shelter.

I also managed to protect from them several times at the beginning of episode 3 just by hiding in the houses and passing some time there like at least 1 hour - when I went out later, they were gone. But later during the game it didn't work or maybe it was a bug or sth at the beginning. Probably that's why I managed to live some time in the game cause these Timberwolfs are frustrating.

On 2/11/2020 at 5:29 AM, RLGA said:

My game must be bugged, I wasn’t listening to the story when the father gave me the rosary I went outside and seen a Timberwolf take off running, I figured the rosary was to keep them away somehow. But after further research they are supposed to attack in packs ? Everytime I get anywhere near one it takes off running scared I havnt had a single encounter the entire episode...now I have to start over to get the wolf pack achievement

I wish I had that bug  Cause I don't like that animals attack me unlike in previous episode in green mode. 

On 3/14/2021 at 5:26 PM, Syraith said:

I would say if anything, better explaining some of the mechanics over making a new tier. Like I sat there for an hour maybe trying to kill the great bear with the spear. Attack after attack just to give up, finish the quest, and be tackled and dragged off to his cave.

The story mode (to me) is there to teach the fundamentals for the game. That’s why I played it first. Then move onto the survival game. To make a pure story only mode takes almost everything out of the game. Every mechanic is designed to compliment another mechanic. You hunt for food and cloths, you make fires for warmth, water and cooking, etc. You already don’t really have to worry about animals in pilgrim mode, and you have saving options. I think the cave battle is a bit more difficult than it needs to be, but if it’s just the story you want, then I’d say just watch a YouTube video play through and save some money. The game is the survival mode, and it’s one of the best I have ever experienced.

I answer some your questions in the previous comment. I don't understand your suggestions cause u r suggesting me to save the money but I  believe developers want to sell the game to lots of people. I just liked the game in 1st episode and the beginning of 2nd one and I would like other episodes to have the same mechanic. If someone wants to have a more difficult game it could be a choice. That's all. 

On 3/13/2021 at 2:03 AM, Stinky socks said:

Perhaps you're interested in "let's play"...

 

I already watch gamplays on YT. That's why I somehow finally killed that Old Bear. My point is I really liked the game on the easy mode just before the Old Bear challenge. I like the animations with the bear. I don't understand why they made the game more difficult later on on the easy mode. I chose this easy mode for some reason. On episode 1 and half the second episode the wolfs and other animals where running away from me. It's even more realistic that way, as the wolfs don't usually attack people irl. And then there was difficult (for me and lots of people - I read comments from December 2020 so not so long ago) struggle with the Old Bear and now in the 3rd episode I have wolfs, bears and also Timberwolfs attacking me. At least they could just make this attacks not so often in the easy mode. I really want to end this episode by myself cause I made this far already. U can laugh but I really enjoy the game in episode 1 and the beginning of the 2nd episode - it wasn't boring and "playing for itself" for me cause u have a lot of quests in the meantime , you need to worry about being fed, hydrated and not cold and u need to collect a lot of stuff and leave the heavy ones so the game is a bit strategic. Plus you have the interesting story and a beautiful views which I find less beautiful when I have to worry all the time if I won't be attacked again soon. Because if u suggest me watching gameplay, u suggest me not buying these game and I think it's better when more people buy it. For example I think that's why The Walking Dead need to sold the game cause a lot of people were too scared to play it and just watched it on YT cause the game is great. Anyway it's just a suggestion. I read somewhere that the attacks are more rare in the more difficult levels but u have less ammunition. But I believe I can't change the mode now when I'm already in the 3rd episode....

10 minutes ago, Dum_Gen said:

This is quite an insight. Just checked Steam achievements stats, they look very interesting.

Apparently, only around 20% lived through 10 days mark in a survival game but less than 5% on players finished ep.3.

At the same time, not surprising numbers with the WM release schedule...

Yes, I was also suprised! Idk - maybe more players play survival mode or challenge mode 🤔 But still for me it's strange that so few people play the story mode till the end. I think it can be because of difficulty. 

The very easy mode in which you don't have to fight with Old Bear and Timberwolfs and any other animals (just the animations would be great). It's for people who are playing mostly for a good story and don't like to learn how to kill some virtual creatures.  I'm such a player and this is more frustrating than fun. I thought the Long Dark would be too difficult for me as I'm not an experienced player but the Episode 1 and the beginning of Episode 2 were great. Then it starts to get more frustrating than fun. I saw on Steam that only 10% of players got the badge for killing the Bear and I saw lots of comments on YouTube from people who got stucked on The Old Bear challenge so I think it's a good idea to make a very easy mode so that more players would buy and enjoy the game. 

You are not the only one who got frustrated with The Old Bear Challenge. Without walkthrougs and advices on YouTube and Steam I wouldn't make it and stop playing. I'm playing only for the good story and I choose the easy mode for some reason...🙄 U can see on YouTube comments that more people got problems with that and got killed by a Bear many many many times. When I finally killed the Old Bear, I got a badge on Steam that says that only 10% of players got it 😮 And when I finally made it to episode 3 there is another frustrating part - Timberwolfs who attack you even when you play on easy mode  I will play the game till the end cause I want to know how it ends but with this attacking animals it's not fun anymore. So It would be nice if developers make a very easy mode for people who are playing only for the good story 

Advices that helped me:

- wear military coat - it gives you more protection and the bear won't kill you the first time he bites you;

- You need to point at the bear after it stands on his feet and roar cause if u do it too soon, you won't have much stamina to fight. It always attacks 3 times;

- !!!!! change the accessibility from "quick tapping to "press and hold" - the fight will be easier cause with tapping you need to tap with special rythm (I also read that some people need to change frame rates in settings cause their computers are too slow for the fight with tapping option) !!!!

- observe the Old Bear for a while especially when u want to finally reach for the spear - wait till the bear is walking at the opposite direction than you want to go to grab the spear. That will buy you time to grab it and point it.

- * I read that you can also take this medicine that gives you the stamina before the fight  - you will have more power to fight. It's not necessary but I guess maybe it helps if u point the spear too late - the bear won't kill you and u will have more stamina too fight again 🤔

[sorry for mistakes I'm not a native speaker] I agree. I'm playing games only for a good story. I don't like to spend time to learn how to kill/scare some virtual game creatures. This is more frustrating than satisfying for me. Also in episode 2 I was frustrated by the Old Bear challenge. Without walkthroughs I wouldn't make it. When I finally did it, it wasn't fun but relief that the story will finally progress. And I believe I'm not the only one - on YouTube video solution how to kill the Old Bear there are lots of comments that people got stuck on this challenge and got killed by a bear about 40(!) times. When I finally killed the Bear I got a badge on Steam that says only 10%(!) players got it. So I think it speaks for itself...I understand that some players want more adventures and risk and like to learn virtual tricks but there should be a choice for people who just want a good story.