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2 hours ago, Pillock said:

That isn't true, is it? Or did I miss a further clarification?

From my experience it seems to be at least 4 or 5% per kilo of wolf - perhaps less for smaller pieces, I dunno. I've never eaten more than 3 or 4 pieces of wolf in a day, and my % chance went up to 19%.

They updated a the mechanic a bit with v. 326. That was how it worked when the mechanic was introduced. At that point they didn't reset the chance daily, it just kept building indefinitely. I believe it is 1% for the first time you consume wolf or bear meat, 2 puts you to 4% and it just keeps ramping up with each piece. I personally don't think I ever let it shoot past 19%.

Okay that didn't take long.

Day 88 - percentage chance to 19% - No Parasites

Day 89 - percentage chance to 19% - Contracted Parasites

I got a little unlucky, but 2 days eating wolf meat at that level is about a 30 percent chance of contracting intestinal parasites. Odds are against you if you eat wolf regularly, especially in quantity. 

Edit: It appears you can eat wolf meat without any consequence while you actually have the condition. 

2 hours ago, KD7BCH said:

I have been testing this too. Steadily increasing my mix of predator meat. My maximum level have been above 20% for several days. At which point I would expect to have an infection once every five days but have not yet. Need a few more real world days to test. I will dramatically increase the mix if I don't score any hits to 100% meat. 

Two things to note. The cutoff time for infection of 24 hours is probably too low. Routinely have to eat predator meat 4-5 pieces to get to 20% risk and this would be a typical daily maximum consumption when mixed with other sources. Even 4-5 full cut pieces is going to be a low risk issue.

Other issue, is cooked meat no longer seems to decay in a container. At least not at the rates I'm used to seeing. Generally meat would decay at 1-3% per day or greater in storage if I recall correct. Now it seems in the file cabinet in Camp Office I can't get cooked meat to decay at all.  

I noticed the meat in containers not decaying quickly as well.

3 hours ago, Scyzara said:

Sorry to tell you, but your trichinosis hotfix (V.326) definitely overshot the target in my opinion.

I've tested the issue for 10 ingame days now and my parasite risk debuff constantly wears out although my diet consists of 90%+ wolf meat in Stalker mode. (I eat 3.5kg of wolf meat -> 14% infection risk, then I do my daily chores, wait until I'm almost starving and eat a few cattail stalks or one piece of rabbit meat afterwards. Once I'm almost starving again my parasite debuff has worn out and I can eat 3.5kg wolf meat again. One day I didn't even need the rabbit snack in between.) I'm not starving myself or trying to exploit the mechanics in any way on purpose, but the risk still runs out all the time without ever triggering an infection. 

I haven't contracted parasites a single time yet (14% risk each day for 10 days in a row). May be luck of course, but it somehow gives me the feeling parasites aren't dangerous at all.

If you want to encourage people to eat a balanced diet (e.g. 50% carnivore meat and 50% herbivore meat or fish), you definitely need to extend the time until the debuff wears out. And not just by 3 hours, but by at least 12-18 hours or so. (And even that won't be enough to prevent a 100% carnivore meat diet if people starve themselves). Just my 2 cent.

Alternatively, you could also rework the whole system, reintroduce a cumulative risk again and consider birch bark tea (or whatever else infinite resource you find fitting) as a cure. 

I think you are probably just lucky or maybe the way the percentage risk is working isn't exactly as we expect? What wasn't clear to me is when the game actually tests to see if we contract the parasites. Is it on the 24 hour cycle and applies the percentage chance right before the percent resets? If so, I think, if you keep living off cooked wolf meet you will almost definitely contract it in sooner rather than later unless you are incredibly lucky. The statistical chances of you making it past 10 days without contracting parasites are only about 17.5%. That is pretty lucky. I could do some testing similar to what you are doing so see what happens, so far i was keeping to to only 1 or 2 wolf steaks every on some days to keep from depleting my other meat stores too quickly. I am definitely curious of the long term survival implications of the parasites. I think they it has a good potential to be a resource drain if we eat carnivore meat carelessly and regularly.

I'll try getting my percent up to 14 every day and let you know how it goes.

I'll chime in real quick on this topic as I am curious about the long term game play impact.

If the probability of contracting intestinal parasites increases by 2 percent each instance I believe you are practically statistically guaranteed to contract within 20 to 25 instances of consuming carnivorous meat. This is how I understand the mechanic as explained.

With a static 2 percent chance each instance that guarantee is stretched out to closer to 230 to 250 instances. Still a serious threat in my opinion. Especially considering just 36 pieces of carnivorous meat still approaches a 50 percent chance of contracting. I would even argue that there would still need to be a way to reasonably manage the ailment other than antibiotics. Perhaps, as others suggested, bark tea. I do believe this resource should be limited though, so you can't mitigate the risk of parasites completely and easily.

If the mechanic is how I noted in the first scenario I would suggest that is a bit too harsh. If the percentage is a static 2 however, it seems a bit more balanced for risk vs reward gameplay.

This is assuming my basic probability calculations are correct, I've been out of school from quite some time....

I am curious how other feel on the topic. Was my assumption correct about the ever increasing probability?