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I dont skip the credits but dont really read them other than the voice cast to be honest. I dont skip because I love the credits music.

Now... After my Old Bear origins theory, I decided to look deeper at someone who is overlooked a lot. Yes, I am talking about Metuhsellah. He is proably everyones favorite character. He gives tips. He does not mind you stealing his meal in front of him and... He is a real character. So... finding Methusellah's origin is a harder job that finding the Old Bear' s origin. Old Bear origins were given to us kind of clearly. It was not hard to piece things together. Metuhsellah on the other hand, Does not have any notes or any kind of clue related to him. All proof I have is his dialouges which... He talks really criptic. This theory will be diffrent from my Old Bear Theory as I dont have a clear answer to this at the moment. I have several theories about his origins so, grab a popcorn and... You know what? I will not try to sound cozy as I am terrible at it. THEORY 1: So... you know the first time you talk with him? Mackenzie says "You look oddly familiar to me old man". So... I dont think Raphael put this in just randomly. Also considering something happened to Will's father, Maybe Metuhsellah is Will's father. I really dont have much proof of this father other than this. I dont believe this is the case tho. THEORY 2: Metuhsellah is a saint... yeah... lets Forget that one. THEORY 3: This theory is the one I believe the most. I think Metuhsellah is Will's future. Let me explain. So will found him oddly familiar as he is just an older version of himself. He always guides will and seems to read his feelings. He knows things he should NOT. If you kill Hobbs, He somehow knows and confronts will in a way that... gives the impression that he himself did it "Is it easier to do it knowing that nobody would know?". Now... dont even try to tell me that he looked from the window. That window is SO blurry that even roxy would not see the inside. I think there might be a time loop going on here. Or much more likely this is just will's mind showing his older self to keep him sane. Ether way, All of this leads to this theory. I will search more about the possiblity of the time loops. But for the time being... what do you think about these? I would really love to brain storm with some The Long Darkians as he is my favorite character in Wintermute.

I love how my serious Forest Talkers/Old Bear theory turned into disscussing how will survived the axe XD

Hinterland Logic. Ask Raphael

Nah, Will is just stubborn.

The basic point is that The Forest Talkers somehow made the Old Bear to destroy Breyerhouse. With an armor or DNA manipulation. It works both ways. It just makes sense considering that thing is not a demon and just has hard outer parts [Stated by Jeremiah]. We also know that the bio weapon they made started their death [Breyerhouse employees finished them off]. So I am pretty sure that the Old Bear is Forest Talkers's doing.

So you are saying that Mackenzie knows things he should not because he is our dear Raphael? Well... not a satisfaying conclusion to the plot holes but... It saved Raphael... from me

Before anyone starts roasting me, I loved the episode. I really did. I played it several times just to experience it again. The episode was well made, The animations were top notch. The music was so good as always and I did not encounter a single bug but... plot holes. Now, I know that I bring this up a lot but these plot holes annoy me a lot. Some examples: - At the start of episode 4, Mackenzie tells Mathis "I told you I was stubborn" even tho he never Told him that. -At the PART FOUR: DONNER, After Mathis promises that he will destroy everything he loves, Mackenzie says "The Wardens Office, Hardcase". How does he know that the Hardcase is there? I dont remember Mathis saying him that. This really ruined that scene for me as I expected to LOOK for it rather than weirdly knowing where it is. I have more examples in my other post. How could they miss these? I theorise that they rushed the episode. Yes, I think there was supposed to be a scene where Mackenzie learns where the Hardcase is and yes, I think there was supposed to be a scene where Mackenzie says Mathis that he is stubborn. I think these were cut out due to time limits. At least... I HOPE that. Because I dont want to believe that Hinterland would do a mistake like this right??? Raphael, This post better be right or I will find you...

Also... in his Boss fight, if you hide inside some place while he chases you his voice starts to glitch out as if they were pre recorded. This is proably a bug tho. I still believe that they artificially created a hard layer of fur and put it on a normal bear.

I just really hope that we will see more of this story line.

LOL

And yes, I am trying to say that they artificially created a hard layer of fur. That is why only a spear can part it.

Well... only one survived. And mackenzie decides his fate in a side quest. If you steal his ammo, He is killed by Breyerhouse. If you give him the ammo and the proof that Breyerhouse is doing illegal things, He goes on to a journey. A journey to share the truth...

So... I've been thinking about the story of the forest Talkers and Breyerhouse company. I am trying to figure out who is the "good guys". So... from what we know, Breyerhouse was doing illegal constructions and cutting massive amounts of trees. The forest Talkers tried to do every thing they can to stop them. Their headquarters was the broken railroad hunting lodge. We know that the Forest Talkers all die and only one survives but... what killed them all or... WHO killed them all? In several notes we learn that Forest Talker tried to make a bio weapon to destroy Breyerhouse once and for all but they messed it up. I dont only think I know what the bio weapon is but Also I know HOW they all died. So... the old bear. The bear we all know and lov-... HATE while he chomps us down in the hunted challenge. He shows up in episode 2 of the story mode. Now... I saw so many people thinking the bear is an ACTUAL demon bear but he is not... you see, The spear can kill him not because it is special. It can kill him because well... it is a spear. The Old Bear has REAL hard outer parts. They are so hard that bullets does not effect him and only a spear is strong enough to go part that outer part. The thing is... How can he have that hard of an outer part? Well... this is where my theory comes in... I think the Old Bear is THE bio weapon that Forest Talkers made. You see, The Forest Talkers were not scientists. They messed it up and The Old Bear started to kill everything in sight. This resulted in most of the Forest Talkers dying while the others are killed by Breyerhouse employees. Eventually Jeremiah encounters the Old Bear starting their long journey... What do you guys think about this theory? Am I overthinking or did I just solve a critical part of the story? Please enlighten me by replying.

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