Goodzilla

I used to speedrun 2-3 years ago quite well. Now with the new loot tables everything changed.

I'm happy to take on the new challenge and start from scratch. If there are allies, we can help each other in this thread.

I've started a lot of speedruns in Whiteout again and I'm now pursuing a new approach.
I'm now trying to find everything in Costal Highway without leaving the area.

Mainly because I can no longer find an oil can in the basement (Island Conector) and also not enough ammo in "Desolation Point".

I have already been able to find all items in one run in CH. The crux of the matter is mainly the oil and sometimes the hatchet.

I have added all the new locations of rifle, hatched and oil canisters to the map. So far I have only been able to find the canister in the "Cinder Hills Coal Mine", unfortunately it is not there in every run. So if anyone knows where else you can find one, that would be a big help.

 

Hey @Lohaan so nice to hear from you.

I see the loot tables have changed, which is mixing up everything for speedrunners.

I will try ro start from zero to check Whiteout for a good speedrun, shall make a new thread soon.

 

Merry Chistmas

Hey speedrunners I need your help. 
After more than 2 years of absence, I started speedrunning in TLD again a few days ago with the Whiteout Challenge.
Now I see that a lot has changed.
The body at "Waterfront Cottage" doesn't seem to be there anymore (because of the hatchet), and I didn't see the hatchet in the tree stump at "Log Sort" either.
The rifle also doesn't seem to spawn in all of the old locations anymore.
Can someone please give me an update on this. @Lohaan ??

Speedrun in Whiteout

 

General:

Don’t loot any locker, wardrobe or cupboard for clothes. Just pick up what is laying around.
I usually walk with max 7-8 temperature bonus and 3-4kg of clothes. Also make sure your cloths are not taking your power, my red bar at my stamina is super thin. Sneakers are the best choice for this Speedrun. Never chop wood, you need to find all wood on this tour.
Never ever drink or eat something except coffee.

 

I split the run in three Stages

1 Stage:

Loot all the 6 houses around the garage. There are minimum 2 houses with soft wood and maximum 4 houses.
What you need to find in that stage: at least 4 soft woods, two cooking pot and at least one coffee box, first chance for the hatchet. I collect here already 30 to 40 sticks. ALWAYS put 4 litre water on the fire before leaving!

 I need 3 to 3,5 hours for this part

 

 

2 Stage:

You see my way at the map attached. Don’t go further in the mine until the first room where the second chance for a stim is. You will try to find as much wood as possible, oil, lantern, tinder and ammo. Two chances for the rifle and the hatched. I also pick up 2 books and 2 coals (if I did not find the briquette in stage 1). You should be almost 40 kg, if not try to visit the trailer at the end of this stage. Back in the garage first thing is to cook coffee before dropping everything. Depends on my power and how many ready coffees I have left, I cook two, four or six coffees. Normal is cooking 4 coffees (six is almost no chance for a new record to me) Try to make two bandage while cooking second time. ALWAYS put 4 litre water on the fire before leaving!

I always check my time after finishing all work when I am ready for next stage. Until this point I have 8 to 9 hours played. (Showing 15-16 hours). I also list everything missing for my mission here at this point. 10 days food or more is good at this point. 10 soft wood or more is also good.

 

3 Stage

Going out with about 5 kg or less. Running directly to the cellar in the Island Connector, first deposit in the entrance of the cave (some wood and may be oil or hatchet). Going straight to the old church. Here you find at least 4 ammo, may be the rifle and some wood. Depending on your soft wood level at this point of the game you can go to the light house (if tight on soft wood) or directly to the Riken.
Do not waste time here, just pick up the wood and may be oil in the lower deck.(Also chance for a stim here). Straight to the Hibernia where you find plenty of wood, food, oil, may be hatchet or rifle.
After the last single trailer there is another chance for 1 to 2 soft wood behind that place, then I go back through the other cave. If you are lucky you have 2-3 stims and may be some Go’s to run back to CH. Depending on your food lvl, you need to loot the hours(es) at waterfront cottages.
If you still missing the rifle you can run the dead body on misanthrope’s island and if it is also not there your last chance is that fishing hut between the two islands

We have in this stage at least 6 chances for the hatchet and 5 for the rifle.

 

For me this is one of the most interesting speedruns, because it is always different. Sometimes you do not find pots or coffee or wood or …..

Found all the wood and had quite nice weater as well

Dear @sholtolsen

Sorry that I only write so little last few months.

However your new tactic motivated me to try this challenge again.

The biggest advantage here is that I do not have to hack any wood and this saves me a lot of time.

Also to have always some coffee power seems to save a lot of time during the two runs  away from the Garage.

I had two other runs where I could be easily under 16h but I did not found enough food.

So I guess soon I shall be under 16h here.

Made it with two stims only which I used for the final run back through CH

Sometimes I have three stims so I can also run through BR.

I guess weather is also quite important.

At the garage there are 2-4 houses where you can find wood. If there are only two houses I abort the run. If 3 or 4 houses I check how many wood is there in total. 4 is the minimum for me to continue the run.

If I have time I shall watch your last run and I will tell you what is the difference to my way.

 

Congratulation!

Sorry I am short on time those days.

Had two times excatly 17:09 and today under 17h

 

WOW @sholtolsen   CONGRATULATION!!!

The great thing is, that you tried a totally new tactic. I was still on BHarus tactic.

Amazing!

Thanks to you I also tried your tactic, looted the 6 houses first, went all they way like you over the mine and lookout back to the garae.In the mine I only checked the entrance for stim and coals.

After a few tries I also made a personal new record.

Thank you for your efforts

 

I landed back here with all I learnd the last months. Could beat my old record

On 3/22/2020 at 9:36 PM, sholtolsen said:

I actually managed to finally get a round with plenty of coffee and stims and good weather thourghout most of the run which resulted in a run below 13 hours. Very proud of it  

unbelievable!! For sure a world record! Congratulation.

I got some hints from Lohaan and I can now understand how you could go so fast.

No so good looking for my old notebook :-)

I switched to Whiteout last few days but for sure I will also see what is possible here.

 

@sholtolsen 

I didn’t watch the video jet, but I will for sure.

I tried so many times the last weeks, made a lot of good time 14:02, 14:12, 14:13 but never could go under 14h.

Yesterday I started again, early in the morning very cold weather and heavy snowing, but I had gloves and a hat, so no frostbite.
Before the dam a blizzard started but I still did continue since I found many stims and the wind did not slow me up.
Found in total 11 stims, but the weather was bad the whole run, it did not stop snowing one time (I never had this before)

So this is my first time under 14h and as you said, if weather is good it will be possible to beat that time

@sholtolsen 

Respect! What a great run! Congratulation!

I don’t think it is possible to beat that time, or may be only for some minutes.
Even the weather was not as good as in your last run.

I am still trying and now I think most important is the weather only. I try now also to continue, even I have only one stim after the dam.

On 2/19/2020 at 3:10 AM, Joe Buckley said:

Nice @Goodzilla !!! That's an amazing time without the stim in BR. Congrats!

Thanks, made a 1d 19h 28m  on 13.Feb.

Now back on Hopeless Rescue challenge

@sholtolsen 

Inspired by your new record I am also trying HR again.

I learned so many things with the new challenge (As the dead sleeps), that I was sure I can beat my old record.

I started with 17h, than came down to 15:11 and yesterday I had great weather and in total 9 stims and made it 14h 10m!

btw:
The 8h 55m  was a time just after Episode 3 was launched and the flare gun was in the plane in PV, so this time is not a "real" time

 

On 2/21/2020 at 11:12 PM, sholtolsen said:

Thanks for the great comments 👍 so great with good feedback.

I will remember to be aware of the last stim location in the mine. That could give a couple of minutes. 

And yeah the weather was really good and the winds quite favourable. 

My with cooking all the coffee in PV Farm was to save time as the summit as I would not have to do anything else than heating up with only one fire. 

As Lohaan daid I have tried the more direct route to the plane crash in PV but was blocked off by a invisible wall and had to take the other route around. Think it is just some sort of bug.

The other office in the Dam is that the one nearby or on the other floor?

Once again, thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.

@sholtolsen 

That is definitely not the way I am taking in PV to go to the plane. I paint it where I walk about, but for sure there is a video showing the exact way.

 

Other things I do different:

- I also check the first "container home" in front of the dam, there can be a stim, coffee, flare and gloves/hat
- I am also checking the new barn in PV just on the right side when you cross the road before the farmhouse, found a stim twice here
- you can save time by cooking if you use the circle menu (space bar)
- I mean the office in the dam on the right side of the control room, there can be a stim in the metal shelf and some cloth/shoes in the office

You arrive after 3,5h in the farmhouse, I have no chance to reach that time!?!

Below my records made in Mai 2019 and Deadman from 13.February 2020

On 2/5/2020 at 5:29 PM, sholtolsen said:

I was able to get a faster run together and recorded it if any one should be interested in the approach I toke with some good aid from Lohaan  

 

 

@sholtolsen 

First of all, congratulation to this record!! Very fast time! I have to check my best time, I think it was 14h 39 m
You got very lucky with the weather, I did not see a single snow flake in your run! Lucky with the weather but quite unlucky with stims!

You missed the last stim in the coal mine, see the screen shot from your run. There are only three places in the mine where it could be and in your run it was on the last place.

I do a few things different than you.
In the dam, I also check the office, there could one additional stim and also some clothes.
Also I think the new way up to the plane (PV) is faster than your way, which I used to go as well before Episode 3 update but I am not sure.

You reach the farmhouse in 3,5h which is absolutely great!
However I cook only one time 6 coffees here and save over 30m against your cooking.

I learned so many things with the new challenge "As the dead sleeps", that I think I should beat my own record here as well.

 

On 2/3/2020 at 11:22 PM, jhickie said:

Your list is missing the one in MT and the one in TWM. 👍

You are right, I did hear from them, but they are both too far away from the shortest way, so no opportunity for a speedrun

On 12/25/2019 at 5:15 AM, Joe Buckley said:

 

Okay, I just had to go again... Now I'm done for sure! Videos with narration this time to follow... Merry Christmas Everyone

I finished it yesterday evening again. With NO stim in Maintenance Shed, I climbed out of Milton without a stim. Had to be under 10 kg weight and used the two coffee cups I found earlier. Went back to the dam after Ravine, got the extra stim in the barn and finished in DP. Still not your time @Joe Buckley  but coming closer.

 

"As the dead sleep" challenge

I was now 10 times in a raw in the  maintenance shed in Broken Railroad without finding a stim in the wooden box.
Before V1.73 I had at least 50% chance or even more.

Now always same spawns : grindstone and sewing kit

17 hours ago, Gun Tech. said:

This is normal. There are a guaranteed 9, possible 10 stims in the game on Loper. This is the possible tenth.

Would you let me know the other places, that might help a lot for a speedrun. Except this mission I never played on Interlooper

2 BR  (wooden box and hunting lodge)
1 FM  (open cave Marsh Ridge)
1 Ravine  (yellow wagon)
1 PV (barn)
1 coal cave (PV-CH)
1 DP (light house)

3 hours ago, Gun Tech. said:

Hmm... you do have to break down something to get it. (I'm thinking it might drop underground - see the Known Issue for 1.73 thread.) One could verify if it's actually still in the game by playing lower difficulty Sandbox mode, but until the issue is fixed, that won't give proof of absence, only proof of presence. If present, the issue might not be the cause of absence on challenge/Loper.

Thanks for that, I dident know about such problems. Anyhow I looted the whole Maintenance Shed, each box and everything but did not found anything. I shall check next time also under the place where it should be.

I note that there was an update hotfix V1.73   that is exactly the last day I found a stim there.

9 hours ago, Gun Tech. said:

This is normal. There are a guaranteed 9, possible 10 stims in the game on Loper. This is the possible tenth.

It was like that before, but since 29.January I did not found a single stim there anymore, and this in more than 10 runs.
I don’t think that is normal, before I had a 50% chance.

However I continued my last run without the stim. It was possible to climb out from Milton (to ML) without a stim, I used the two coffees I found an reduced my weight under 10kg and just made it. I shall hopefully finish the run tonight and I will be clearly under  2 days.

Still speedrunning "As the dead sleep"

I was now 7 times in a raw in the  maintenance shed in Brtoken Railroad without finding a stim in the wooden box.

Was there an update which I missed. First I tought it is just bad luck, but yesterday I tried 4 times and today another 3 times and there was never a stim  there again.

Can anybody confirm this please?

@Ice Hole 

I goat it 🙂

I found the way myself yesterday after a few tries. It is now even easier/faster than before!

here I could have made it under 2 days.

I was almost dead entering DP where my last cross was waiting to be visited, I decided to get the stim in the lighthouse to survive but unfortunately got a sprain when jumping down to the road.... almost made it ...but just almost