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I also wish to point out that games were successfully made for ages before the AAA industry came in and convinced people if they didn't buy 300 dollars of skins every month the project was a failure. They don't want just enough money, they want all the money and if they can't have it all it's a failure. Worthless AAA garbage CEOs are lying scum. I don't understand how people can support AAA when there are companies that are so much better like hinterland.

In so many games being greedy will get you killed. In multiplayer games you can exploit loot tunnel vision pretty hard.

No, you're quite correct, but I still see the puzzle aspect of TLD. For example if there is a cave in TLD you can leave your lantern there at the entrance. Why carry it? That's a little optimisation you can make just like the little optimisations you can make in the games I mentioned. You can double the iron carry capacity of trains in factorio if you turn it into plates before shipping it, for example.

I think that's part of why I like harder games too. If I am dying it drives me to find a solution, and that I generally enjoy.

It's possible it fell through the ground, or the game had a little patch and that made it fly off somewhere. Who knows. I would look for the lost and found box, you may find it in there if it went somewhere it shouldn't have.

Some people enjoy optimising things and figuring things out. It's probably why I also like games like factorio, space chem, or the caesar series. The smaller box is like a puzzle to be solved.

I personally like the idea of passive fishing. The problem with active fishing, to me, is that it is either worth it and you can just fish a ton to get heaps of food/oil, or fishing isn't worth it in which case it's pointless.

With passive fishing like the suggestions above it could be worth it but also not give too much. It seems like a good balance to me.

From what I remember they did mention the spear but they said they would look and see if it would fit. They never said they were planning to add it, they said they were planning on considering adding it. Whether they've thought about it and decided no, decided yes but haven't done it, or haven't decided yet I have no idea.

Personally I don't play loper because I don't like things like starving all the time minus sleeping then regenerating like the terminator in the night. I like death to slowly cover you instead of instantly killing you.

That's actually a big reason why I don't play much of TLD. I can't get the game difficult enough in the ways I want. "cheating" is the opposite of what I want. Just because you cannot do something does not mean that others cannot.

If you actually do want to play interloper and survive I would look at your limiting factors. What kills you? Solve those problems and you will be fine.

Depending on how everything turns out and what the DLC is I would at least look and consider getting it. I am generally happy with hinterland so far.

It's not impossible, but it would make it more difficult. Minecraft has compressed time multiplayer as well. It simply passes time when both people do it at the same time. TLD has more of it though, which would make it a little clunky. I am sure I would still enjoy it though, especially if it was for story mode.

Ladders will never happen because the devs want to lock down where you can go as much as possible. That's why we can't lift our legs more than 5mm.

Personally when I try sewing something I will eat the cloth if it doesn't come out right. Doesn't everyone?

6 hours ago, xenojeff said:

And again, here's the nonsensical situation that I encountered a few times, which prompted me to start this thread in the first place.  I was in some shelter, like a barn or a workshop area, or something like that.  I couldn't rest inside because there was no bed and I didn't have a bedroll.  My only option (because I was lucky to have cloths) was to go outside, waste more energy and warmth looking for 15 sticks to build a snow shelter from the cloths, and sleep outside in the frigging snow, instead of inside by the fire. 

 

Yup. That's a major issue with the game. If you have played for 1000+ hours and know where all the beds are you can mitigate it but the problem never goes away.

For anyone new or anyone who likes the game to make at least some sense that is a massive and obvious flaw that really hurts the experience.

The point would be to kill people.

Currently for me I start a game, get set up, feel like I could survive forever, then quit. If things were getting worse and worse I could always feel that sense of I don't think I am going to make it, of wanting to prepare. Then I can just see how long I can survive.

I had that when I first started playing. I was trying to survive on the lake with the cabin in timberwolf mountains before I figured out I needed a knife and a forge to make anything. Since I was playing on the highest difficulty of course none of that was going to happen. But before I figured that out I was enjoying it.

One issue I can see with this idea though is the magic houses. I would really like it if they could get colder with the environment. They would need to introduce house heating though. And possibly the ability to insulate one to some amount to give us another thing to do to prepare for the cold nights ahead.

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One thing I would not like so much though is simply adding to the wolf thunderdome. I would really like to die to the environment or thirst/hunger.

That would be nice, it could give people the objective of trying to survive. The way the game works though I could see people living indefinitely. Houses are never cold and you die just as fast whether it's -1 or -273 once you start freezing.

I think I agree with everything you've written here. I would be happy to have temperature be a bigger part of the game.

One thing to mention though is that your warmth meter does, I think, go down more quickly the colder your "feels like" is. It's only once that runs out and you start taking damage that it doesn't matter anymore. Since everything just does health damage your health becomes a currency that you can spend on things like food and warmth. If you make a lot of currency each night you can spend a lot of it on warmth making freezing not matter.

The solutions I see are making it so that you get less currency(possible in custom), make it more expensive to freeze(as you suggest), or remove warmth as something you can purchase by replacing freezing health damage with "core temperature". If your core temp gets too low you die, regardless of how much health you have.

On 2/22/2021 at 9:28 AM, Bean said:

Depends on the console.  If I’m playing on the PS4, I can walk about with a revolver equipped without danger of it going off.  The Use and Fire buttons aren’t the same on that console as they are on the computer.  
 

What? Consoles have at least some advantage with controls?.......These are dark times indeed. How is could the devs possibly have let this happen?

9 hours ago, Pillock said:

But it does lead to some frustratingly unintuitive situations, like building a snowshelter to sleep in that's right outside a cave or trailer where you'd have been much warmer. Situations like this remind you that you are fighting for the survival of a game character against artificial game rules, rather than being immersed in the scenario of being out in the wilderness trying to survive against nature - and I think reducing the instances of those "reminders" generally makes the game better.

Yes to this.

I've often wished the light outside the house was related to the light inside the house. Often times it's morning and the sun is shining but it's so dark in a house full of windows that you can't see anything at all. It really could use some work.

As someone who disables fishing in their custom games because it's too OP I would like an alternative way to get lantern fuel. I almost never use the lantern because, well, I can't make fuel for it.

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Also if the lantern lasted longer then it might be possible to make the nights darker. Which would be nice because right now inside is black as pitch while outside midnight is barely darker than mid-day. I wish there were some consistency.

Slightly off topic, but snowy forests are always so pretty. Thanks for posting those pics

Coop is always fun. I have never seen a game be worse in coop as long as it's actually functional, even when it's implemented like garbage. Nice thing is is that anyone who doesn't want it doesn't have to use it. Only question is would it be worth the dev time?

Either way though it won't happen, so this conversation is pointless.

As someone who does know an okay amount about guns when that person said revolvers don't jam they probably mean that cartridges cannot jam up like they do in belt/magazine fed weapons. Unless a revolver is pretty much falling apart/breaking it's going to fire if the ammo is good.

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Also if the ammo is no good you can simply rotate to the next cartridge anyways with a revolver. With a magazine fed pistol you would need to clear that round before you could attempt to fire again.

sleeping on a floor, even a relatively warm one, is very cold. I've tried it. Of course I didn't have on a full set of winter clothes. If I had I would have felt fine I am sure, at least on the floor I was on.

Honestly we should probably be getting a -warmth penalty even when using a bedroll in a cave. The bedroll will help, but that floor is going to still be extremely cold. Only the magic houses should get a bonus. Not that it matters there anyways since they're magically warm anyways.

Roof dogs. Working as intended. I heard they're getting spider web glands next patch so they can slowly and silently lower themselves down on you when you try to pry open the gas station door in milton.