cowboymrh Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I've been thinking about this a lot and trying to weigh the different items against each other and I've come to the conclusion that besides bullets, the most valuable commodity in the game is Kerosene.Without lamp oil, you are not able to travel between maps other than ML & CH via the ravine.Trying to get through a cave or mine with just matches would be almost impossible. Of course, flares in the game are also in limited supply. I don't have a lot of experiences with torches to know how bright they are or how long they last.HERE'S MY POINT: Since the DP map centers around a "Whaling Community", Why not have a simple way to process old Whale Oil into usable Storm Lamp Oil so you can fill up a Jerry Can!!This would be a great way to get more out of the DP map than just the Forge items!!Am I brilliant or what?? LOL ;Look forward to hearing what you think! ThanksBy the way .... this game absolutely ROCKS!! GJ Hinterland!!
brun Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I'd say the hatchet. With that you can chop wood, open cans, harvest animals, break ice and fight wolves. The knife is also very important to me :-)Cheers
Boston123 Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 DP centers around a FORMER whaling community. That place looks like it has been abandoned for about 30 years.Oh, and organic oils go rancid after a while. Mineral oils (of which Kerosene is one, being refined from petroleum) either does not, or goes bad much slower.I would rather have the ability to render animal fat and use it in a "grease lamp"
selfless Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Torches are half as bright as the lamp, last 1.5 hours each, require a fire to light, aren't windproof, and are craftable using 3 sticks and fire.Maybe not as valuable as lamp oil, but a great, unlimited substitute.
Boss Llama Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Well, taking into account both scarcity and utility, I'd say the things I would prioritize as especially valuable (ignoring things like food and matches, which are plentiful) are:First - a hatchet. A hatchet provides fuel, lets you harvest animals, helps you fight off attacks, and lets you gather the saplings for a bow and arrows. Second - a knife, which allows more efficient animal harvesting, permits you to cut cloth and leather from old clothes or found objects to repair and improve your apparel, and works as a can-opener to boot (as can hatchet, actually).Third - some especially nice heavy clothing. I pay special attention to the stuff I can't make a hide version of like a heavy wool sweater or wool long johns, but I'll also want a premium winter coat and insulated boots, to use while I work on the hide stuff and for general long-term lighter-weight use.Fourth - A rifle and ammo. Neither is useful without the other, so I don't think they can be separately valued here. Makes dealing with wolves significantly easier, and allows efficient hunting.Additional items I significantly desire:Sewing KitPrybarFlaresQuality Tools
whisperwind777 Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Wool long underwear. There are times when I searched every lootable places in all maps finding dozens of gloves, hats and socks but none of it. When I did find any, all were found in Coastal Highway. They are so rare that I have never found more than 3 in one game.
MueckE Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 i would say the most valuable thing is something that you really need and is not infinite (?).Bullets and Arrows are nice, but you still can kill wolves with a knife, and that is always repairable.I like torches more than the lantern and torches are infinite often craftable. Food, water, fire, shelter, clothes, all forever. The only thing that can get scary (after the last update) is to have no medicine rosehips and mushrooms dont respawn and as soon you have no antibiotics or painkillers anymore, game becomes pretty hard.So i would say the most valuable thing is antibiotics.
r0gershrubber Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 So i would say the most valuable thing is antibiotics.YES.
ChillPlayer Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 So i would say the most valuable thing is antibiotics.YES.I agree, plus antiseptic in any form, followed ultimately by bandages. Lacking one of these will kill you.As for convenience stuff, hatchet, knife, bedroll and of course matches or any way to make fire. If you have all that plus some decent clothing you can have a pretty good life
Scyzara Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 Someone mentioned a while ago that food poisonings and infections don't kill you any longer (health drops to 5% or something, then you recover). Can anyone confirm that?I mean it would be kind of logical as wolf bite infections (and thus antiseptic/antibiotics) were the last thing that still limited your survival time a bit. (And every change the Devs made to the game during the last year had the purpose to make infinite survival possible). Anyway, if you can actually still die of infections, I vote for antiseptic/antibiotics. If not, I vote for nothing as there is plenty of everything. I don't know if this makes much sense for you, but I personally would only call something particularly "valuable" if I actually need said item to survive. Which is just not the case for any item I can think of.Some examples:I don't really need a hatchet to gain fuel as there is an infinite amount of sticks and coal available. I also don't really need a lantern or kerosene for lighting as there are infinite torches available. I don't even need either rifle or bow or hunting knife or hatchet or fishing tackle to get food as there are perpetuum mobile snares available and rabbit corpses can be harvested barehanded.I could go on with this list for every single item ingame, except maybe the magnifying lens if I ever aimed for a 2000day+ run which I don't.
druffzilla Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 to me its definitely the antiseptic, although i never ran out of supplies yet, and always died of stupidity or greed for example running after a injured wolf in heavy fog, or forgetting to carry extra bandages or carrying extra cloth, or making trips in pleasant valley without the warmest clothing and a good plan of where to go if the weather goes bad... im definitly always short on antiseptic and wolf attacks are really hard to avoid at all times, i havent fought a inflammation yet so i dont know if my worries are appropriate.other then that its the matches which i never ran out of either, but once u cant start a fire anymore there is no other way of getting water right?
MueckE Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 The thing with fire is just theoretically, i mean you find enough matches to survive very very long and it will only become interesting if you aim for the top 10 of the leaderboard.In my current run i found over 10 bottles of antiseptic and although i prefer lychens (weight), this antiseptic would be enough for two runs for the top of the leaderboard. But i only found a few antibiotics and painkillers. I harvested all plants from ML, CH, DP and transitions already and now know that the amount wont last so long (because i had to use a lot of it already )Thats why i think it is antibiotics.
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