reficul999 Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 I just spent all my calories cracking open an ice fishing hole in a lake. Why can't I draw fresh water from the hole instead of wasting all my firewood to melt snow?
jackattack Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Yes, this. Not a complete gimme if the water still needs to be boiled.
nicko Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 This sounds like a great idea, also makes sense. but as others suggested you will still need to clean the water before drinking it.
Pegasus2 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 I'm not sure drinking lake water even if boiled is the best in this situation, esp since it's frozen over. You can just melt snow on the stove in the fishing hut so I don't see the point?
jackattack Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Saving 33% of the time to get potable water?
sir ice Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 +1the clean/dirty water system in this game is kinda odd.
cekivi Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 +1 To getting dirty water from "some" ice fishing holes.Even in winter there's stuff that lives in the water so the water would always be contaminated. However, the ice huts on the coastal highway shouldn't give anything. You can't drink salt water after all
vancopower Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 +1 To getting dirty water from all fishing holes, but with timer to prevent exploit for example you can get 10 lit unsafe water before it starts freezing again in 4 hours, and since time is precious in this game you would not exploit this so much, it will make water purification tablets even more useful.
starfighter441 Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Dunno about dirty water from fishing holes, in Northern BC when I was a kid (many moons ago) the rule of thumb was, "if trout can live in it, you can drink it".
Hesha Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 +1 To getting dirty water from all fishing holes, but with timer to prevent exploit for example you can get 10 lit unsafe water before it starts freezing again in 4 hours, and since time is precious in this game you would not exploit this so much, it will make water purification tablets even more useful.How is it an exploit to get water from a hole in the ice? If the game used a system of containers there would be no issue whatsoever, you would simply be limited by the number of containers you have. I hope this is going to happen.
Dirmagnos Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Water from fishing holes everywhere, but CH. Unsafe.Water from fishing holes in CH. Salt water. Evaporated to get salt, that could be used to preserve meat.
PanzerRabbit Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Water from fishing holes everywhere, but CH. Unsafe.Water from fishing holes in CH. Salt water. Evaporated to get salt, that could be used to preserve meat.This! :idea:
akodo1 Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Yes, 'cold and fast running' is generally deemed safe for drinking.Honestly, melted snow should be just fine to drink without boiling. (snow may have pollutants, but they'd still be there after boiling'I have chalked up the necessity to boil as something else going on akin to wolf and bear aggression.
vancopower Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 +1 To getting dirty water from all fishing holes, but with timer to prevent exploit for example you can get 10 lit unsafe water before it starts freezing again in 4 hours, and since time is precious in this game you would not exploit this so much, it will make water purification tablets even more useful.How is it an exploit to get water from a hole in the ice? If the game used a system of containers there would be no issue whatsoever, you would simply be limited by the number of containers you have. I hope this is going to happen.-1 to containers, I think in this game containers will add unnecessary complexity to the game. The ability to create water from thin air yes it is unrealistic but works well with the game mechanics of passing time by the fire in which case you have to just wait if you don't have containers but yes it will be more realistic I don't know maybe plastic bags which you can carry by the hundreds and fill them up with water but then again how to you boil it arghh see complexity
Hesha Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 What's wrong with complexity? Don't you think there are enough dumbed down games out there where you can hit a tree with your fists and harvest wood in return?
Best_Leopard Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 I wouldn't mind getting dirty water from those fishing holes, since it would actually give me a use for the purification tablets. Most of the time, they just sit there in my cabinets taking up space because it makes no sense to melt snow for water without going ahead and boiling it too. I think the only times I've used the tablets are (1) the rare occasion I've found a bottle of dirty water; and (2) if wind puts my fire out before I can boil everything.
Litstorm Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 I just spent all my calories cracking open an ice fishing hole in a lake. Why can't I draw fresh water from the hole instead of wasting all my firewood to melt snow?lol nice i never even thought about it before, can't argue with this
vancopower Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 What's wrong with complexity? Don't you think there are enough dumbed down games out there where you can hit a tree with your fists and harvest wood in return?haha you are quite right, I am quite bothered by this too at least you should loose health when you do that . I don't know I guess I am used too harvest water from fire just works well with this game it's a habit maybe if they change it I would get used to the idea but now I just can't seem to imagine how it would work. Gathering bottles? and pots? doesn't sound TLD to me more like Zomboid which is great for that type of game, I don't know if you have some idea how it would work I would love to read it .
Warg Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Complexity is good When melting snow, you need a BIG pot to get any reasonable quantity of water from frozen snow. It melts down to almost nothing. So +1 to taking water from fresh water fishing poles, though that implies lakes, thus being unsafe and needing to be treated/boiled. Should save time.I'm imagining a big 2 liter Cola bottle in the pack, or perhaps 3 one liter bottles. Not too much to search for and keep track of. Problem is, backpack is uninsulated so water should freeze stiff in a few hours no matter how hot you pour it in. Thermoses and searching for them, now that is a thought. Or some sort of hip flask only larger, filled in hot and kept near the skin to keep warm...
Dirmagnos Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Problem is, backpack is uninsulated so water should freeze stiff in a few hours no matter how hot you pour it in.Im not sure that this would be a problem. Sure, its cold, far below freezing point, but player moves most of the time, meaning that water moves with him inside those bottles. And with all that commotion its highly unlikely that it would freeze fast enough for it to become a problem.
vancopower Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Complexity is good When melting snow, you need a BIG pot to get any reasonable quantity of water from frozen snow. It melts down to almost nothing. So +1 to taking water from fresh water fishing poles, though that implies lakes, thus being unsafe and needing to be treated/boiled. Should save time.I'm imagining a big 2 liter Cola bottle in the pack, or perhaps 3 one liter bottles. Not too much to search for and keep track of. Problem is, backpack is uninsulated so water should freeze stiff in a few hours no matter how hot you pour it in. Thermoses and searching for them, now that is a thought. Or some sort of hip flask only larger, filled in hot and kept near the skin to keep warm...I think you are on to something. -20 to 40 celsius outside the water should freeze I have watched videos from people in Russia splashing a bucket of water in to the air and it turned instantly to snow. Having this mechanic would make things interesting, maybe there should be stages like: Boiled water, after a while it becomes cold water, then sluggish ice water and finally frozen ice. Yea that would be nice twist, although there are already more than enough hardships to deal with, still it will add more than complexity. Then there could be an option to craft some kind pouch from rabbit skin and store the water in there or just wrap the skin around the bottle. Devs should really look at this Idea I think it should hit the next update.
Hesha Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Cool. And once we have containers implemented, freezing water could destroy the bottles as well, causing even more trouble...
Dirmagnos Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Bottles, pouches, pots...All this is nice. Problem is, while its fairly realistic, making safe water is already extremely over complicated in the game.Water is literally everywhere in the game, so realistically carrying around a small bottle for immediate usage is all that player needs. You walk out of the cave, grab some snow, put into a pot and set it by the fire - youre done. You dont even need to boil it normally.So, if they are to implement water freezing they should also remove whole that crap with boiling and storage.
SEAplane Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Water from fishing holes everywhere, but CH. Unsafe.Water from fishing holes in CH. Salt water. Evaporated to get salt, that could be used to preserve meat.Yes please.
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