Food poisoning more likely if "full"?

[vimrich]

I play on Voyager, and rarely get food poisoning - maybe 4 or 5 times in 150+ days. However, EVERY time it's happened, it's when I ate cooked meat (70 to 80% fresh) that took me over the 2500 calorie limit.

Is food poisoning more likely to happen when you're stomach is "full?"

Anyone else see this?

[octavian]

Erm, from what I know it could point at a bug in the sense that you shouldn't be able to get food poisoning, ever, by eating cooked meat over 75% unless they changed that at some point.

As awesome as finding the changes for yourself, minute balance changes will always be a major pain in the butt to track as they are not listed in the changelist.

So if you are 100% sure you did eat cooked meat over 75% and did get food poisoning... I could try to reproduce if you tell me what kind of meat it was, deer, fish, and if so what kind, wolf, bear or rabbit. Or you could simply report it as a bug and "be done with it". Even if it's not it's basically reported as one and it will be either tested or you will be told it's by design. This latter option seems to me to be most productive, simply reporting it as a bug, regardless whether you suspect it is one or not.

Also, I remember there have been talks about food poisoning when peaking 2500 calories but you would have to search the forums as I don't recall what the conclusion was.

[Le_Survivant]

Never had a food poisoning since i started to play, even if i tried to eat until i was completely full. And you are supposed to have a "safe zone" when eating, except if you try to eat raw fish or meat. Are you sure you haven't eat by mistake raw food ?

[mellow_swe]

Actually, I have noticed this too.

Especially with raw meat at all conditions.

If I eat the whole thing it seems to be safe but as soon as I don't finish a whole piece I seem more likely to get food poisoning.

Which is why I never eat any meat in the game that would take me over 2500 calories.

[Le_Survivant]

Actually, I have noticed this too.

Especially with raw meat at all conditions.

The question is not to know if that happens when you eat raw meat, because it sure does. Does that happens when you eat cooked meat ? You might think it is, just because you have the impression it happens to you when you eating good quality food, but actually it may happens to you only when you are eating raw meat and you don't have see the link between raw meat and chances of food poisonning.

[vimrich]

Erm, from what I know it could point at a bug in the sense that you shouldn't be able to get food poisoning, ever, by eating cooked meat over 75% unless they changed that at some point.

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So if you are 100% sure you did eat cooked meat over 75% and did get food poisoning... I could try to reproduce if you tell me what kind of meat it was, deer, fish, and if so what kind, wolf, bear or rabbit...

Also, I remember there have been talks about food poisoning when peaking 2500 calories but you would have to search the forums as I don't recall what the conclusion was.

I didn't report it because I figured 80% meant 20% chance of poisoning. This is from memory, but as I have very strict "diet" practices it's pretty accurate. In all cases, I was "filling up" for a long days's trek: I went "over" 2500 and the food poisoning kicked in. (My idea was, food in your belly doesn't count as food you have to carry, so you only need food for the return trip home). All are on Voyager setting.

cooked bear 68% (in PV)

cooked bear 70% (in PV)

cooked wolf 80% (in CH) <- this is one that caught my eye, so I started paying attention

uncooked wolf 95% (In CH)

cooked wolf 75% (in ML)

[octavian]

I didn't report it because I figured 80% meant 20% chance of poisoning.

To my knowledge this is not how the game works. >75% cooked meat means zero chance of food poisoning. Again, as far as I know.

cooked bear 68% (in PV) <- chance for food poisoning

cooked bear 70% (in PV) <- chance for food poisoning

cooked wolf 80% (in CH) <- this is interesting

uncooked wolf 95% (In CH) <- chance for food poisoning

cooked wolf 75% (in ML) <- ?

I went "over" 2500 and the food poisoning kicked in.

To my knowledge food poisoning gets applied when you finish eating, peaking 2500 calories means you stop eating, so if you'll get food poisoning, you will get it then, not during eating, not some time after you stop eating.

I will test out of curiosity to see if I can get food poisoning by eating cooked wolf @ 80%.

[mellow_swe]

The question is not to know if that happens when you eat raw meat, because it sure does. Does that happens when you eat cooked meat ? You might think it is, just because you have the impression it happens to you when you eating good quality food, but actually it may happens to you only when you are eating raw meat and you don't have see the link between raw meat and chances of food poisoning.

What I am saying is that I eat raw meat regularly in the game and almost never get food poisoning, as long as I don't eat a piece that will take me over 2500 calories or one with very low condition (<20%).

And yes it happens when eating cooked meat at good condition too...

Soon after the PV map came out I was at the farmstead with a fridge full of cooked bear meat @ >50% condition and I couldn't figure out why I was getting food poisoning from cooked meat so often, like every 3 days or so.

At first I thought bear meat had a higher risk of food poisoning or something, but then realized that the extra calories put me over 2500 in the morning when eating after sleeping 10 hours.

I would typically go to bed with 2300-2400 calories and wake up with 1700-1800. Then eat wolf meat or wait a while if eating deer meat. But since bear meat is another 100 calories I didn't wait and got food poisoning.

It would be easier for the devs to clarify if this is how the game is programmed or if it might be a bug...

[vimrich]

At first I thought bear meat had a higher risk of food poisoning or something, but then realized that the extra calories put me over 2500 in the morning when eating after sleeping 10 hours.

I would typically go to bed with 2300-2400 calories and wake up with 1700-1800. Then eat wolf meat or wait a while if eating deer meat. But since bear meat is another 100 calories I didn't wait and got food poisoning.

It would be easier for the devs to clarify if this is how the game is programmed or if it might be a bug...

I do the same thing now. Always check to see if the meal would put me over 2500. So far, no more food poisoning.

For the earlier question, what you see is that pretty much right after you click "eat" on a meal that has to be cut off to avoid going over 2500, then you'll see the poisoning red icon.

It's kind of a pain to have to wait for your cals to drop so that 900 won't put you over, but not that bad.

[Kraelman]

You're not crazy. I have observed the exact same thing. Try a little test. Kill a deer, harvest the entire thing in .5kg quantities. Eat the raw meat up to 2500 calories. Theoretically you should have the same chance of food poisoning for every piece you eat... but see if that is the case. Repeat the test a couple of times. Another thing to try is cancelling halfway through eating each piece. I've noticed that cancelling also seems massively boost your chances of getting food poisoning, and that may be the root of the problem as you automatically cancel eating when you hit 2500 calls.

[NotThatGuy]

Interesting. The one time I've gotten food poisoning, it was while eating meat (deer, I think) that took me over 2500. Since I've only experienced it once, I didn't think about whether there was a connection.

[ridankrad]

I've observed this as well. The only times I ever got food poisoning was when I cancelled eating a venison steak partway through because I wanted to leave some scraps for wolf bait. The meat was cooked and high quality. I was able to get this to occur again later after the food poisoning had worn off by doing the same thing so I don't think it's a coincidence.