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In the Announcement video for Tales part 5, multiple video segments for Misery showed the survivor carrying a rifle while a new stage of afflictions appeared. There was also a couple of scenes of a wolf struggle with a hunting knife during the misery segment, which suggests that the survivor was using a hunting knife in misery mode. 

Are these very rare finds in misery? Such as, maybe only one in the entire world? Was this footage during testing as a non-vanilla Misery? 

Has anyone found an item in Misery that would not spawn in Interloper, and is it a bug or a feature? I found a revolver shell casing in my Misery run but I think you can find those in Interloper too so I wasn't too surprised. 

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No, Misery Mode uses Interloper loot settings, so these items cannot spawn (minus a loot bug):

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    • Hunting Rifle and Revolver (and variants)
    • Survival Bow (and variants) and Simple Arrow
    • Flashlights (and variant)
    • All high-end clothing
    • All high-end foods
    • Cardboard matches
    • Hatchet/Hunting Knife (Improvised Hatchet/Knife may be forged)
    • Most unique "one-off" loot like the Bearskin Coat in Ash Canyon

    Like Interloper mode, Spelunker's Lantern is the only item variant which may spawn on Misery Mode.

Like Interloper, the only weapons which are available are:

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    • Stone
    • Distress Pistol
    • Survival Bow and Simple Arrows/Fire Hardened Arrow (never spawns, must be crafted), both arrow types never spawn via beachcombing

Many users have mentioned this from the Hinterlands Tales Part 5 Announcement Video, but I believe it was simply an oversight for the video. I think there's 3 possibilities:

  • Filming/Editing Mistake or Oversight: by someone who didn't know what Misery Mode was, or the details of which items were disabled on it.
  • B-Roll footage: with rifle gameplay that through poor editing/direction happened to overlap with the Misery segment of the video.
  • Pre-release footage: where Hunting Rifle was enabled for Misery at some point in the mode's pre-release history, and the trailer included this deprecated information, and no one noticed/had time to change this error.

I find the "pre-release footage" idea the the least credible, given what we know about Misery Mode's goals (and what Raph has said about Interloper, back when it was released). We also have multiple YouTube/Twitch Streamers "let's plays"/testimony from the Misery Mode private Beta, and firearms/hatchet/hunting knife were not present in any of their runs. It's still possible this was a Misery alpha change, but I doubt that given what we know of the game mode and it's goals as an extreme difficulty "beyond Interloper". Seems most likely an editing error/oversight in the video.

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