Revolver vatiants change

[K3V038]

Ive been using the gun variants for a while now. I like to carry a "big iron" on my hip, because it makes me feel like a cowboy of the north and it matches my playstyle really good. Anyways, the revolver variants have one, big issue that makes players just straight up ditch them for the basic revolver in the first place, that being the ability to AIM THE GUN in a propper way. I dont like to critique the long dark, it is my favourite game, ive been playing this game for the past six years, but the lack of the most important part of a firearm is just not good... rear sights are missing on the forester's revolver, which is my favourite variant, and the same issue is visible on the warden's revolver. Now when it comes to the warden's weapon, even though it lacks a rear sight, its front one just sucks hard. Its way too long and confusing to aim. Should we aim it like a normal gun? Not paying much attention to the bad design of the sight and trying to use the barrel as help, or should we use the tip of the sight like most weapons of the game? If I aimed that way, I would expect the projectile to hit way under where I want to shoot, which could mean life or death in many cases. Also the hunter's revolver, a retro-style revolver with more precise, long range shots... its not enjoyable too much. The sight is so weird, as with the other guns... it does have a rear sight BUT it is so wonky and weird and just... not pleasent... The premise is we line up the two squares and try to aim. All right, but I still would like to see what im trying to shoot. Anyways, not saying the variants are useless or anything, but way more players would use them if they had rear sights and were more simple and straight forward like the normal revolver

[deathbydanish]

Do you have screenshots to illustrate the issue with the site picture for each revolver?

The Warden's Revolver being a short snubnose revolver, seems to me quick draw weapon to pull out quickly to shoot something that is about to attack you. At least that's what I think of whenever I look at my M85, its a small pocket revolver that is easier to pull out and fire at short distances as opposed to trying to line up a shot past 25 yards.

[K3V038]

4 minutes ago, deathbydanish said:

Do you have screenshots to illustrate the issue with the site picture for each revolver?

The Warden's Revolver being a short snubnose revolver, seems to me quick draw weapon to pull out quickly to shoot something that is about to attack you. At least that's what I think of whenever I look at my M85, its a small pocket revolver that is easier to pull out and fire at short distances as opposed to trying to line up a shot past 25 yards.

Yeah, I know the concept. Small, compact but less lethal and less range, but whats the point if you have difficulty lining up a shot on something that is 5 meters ahead? The gun has no rear sight, and the front sight is annoying to aim. Its just... tall if I had to explain in one word, the front sight is just too tall to aim it good. And for comparison, here i have a ss of the vanilla revolver as you can see, the front sight in wardens revolver is twice as long if not longer and adding that on top of the lack of rear sights makes it hell to aim

Maybe its not too visible here, you would have to compare them in game to get my point, sorry

[Pencil]

I always assume the bullet to land at the top of the sight. I try to put the very top of the sight in the middle of whatever I'm aiming at and I generally get good results. 

Honestly I think they were designed this way on purpose to prevent people from hunting too easily with them. Each revolver is meant to be adapted to and is meant to be hard to hunt with. As much as I'd love the sights to be easier to work with, it's probably an intentional design. 

[K3V038]

55 minutes ago, Pencil said:

I always assume the bullet to land at the top of the sight. I try to put the very top of the sight in the middle of whatever I'm aiming at and I generally get good results. 

Honestly I think they were designed this way on purpose to prevent people from hunting too easily with them. Each revolver is meant to be adapted to and is meant to be hard to hunt with. As much as I'd love the sights to be easier to work with, it's probably an intentional design. 

"Short distance weapon for defence, but you can use it for hunting wolves and deer if you have to"

- game dev

[K3V038]

Just now, K3V038 said:

"Short distance weapon for defence, but you can use it for hunting wolves and deer if you have to"

- game dev

Plus, how can you defend yourself if you cant shoot what you have to shoot? Wolves die from two shots to the head/neck with the revolver (vanilla gun) and looking at how the warden gun deals less damage, you have to shoot 2 to 3 times and hit your target. The only real way to hit your shot with the warden revolver is for your target to be right in front of you while you can simply place accurate shots from quite a distance with the normal revolver. Point made

[Leeanda]

26 minutes ago, K3V038 said:

Plus, how can you defend yourself if you cant shoot what you have to shoot? Wolves die from two shots to the head/neck with the revolver (vanilla gun) and looking at how the warden gun deals less damage, you have to shoot 2 to 3 times and hit your target. The only real way to hit your shot with the warden revolver is for your target to be right in front of you while you can simply place accurate shots from quite a distance with the normal revolver. Point made

Hip shots are defensive..plus one hit doesn't have to immediately kill it..it just means you have to go wait for them to bleed out.

[deathbydanish]

On 6/23/2024 at 12:12 AM, K3V038 said:

Yeah, I know the concept. Small, compact but less lethal and less range, but whats the point if you have difficulty lining up a shot on something that is 5 meters ahead? The gun has no rear sight, and the front sight is annoying to aim. Its just... tall if I had to explain in one word, the front sight is just too tall to aim it good. And for comparison, here i have a ss of the vanilla revolver as you can see, the front sight in wardens revolver is twice as long if not longer and adding that on top of the lack of rear sights makes it hell to aim

Maybe its not too visible here, you would have to compare them in game to get my point, sorry

It's too bad you can't just grind the front sight down, when I first heard of people doing that I was a bit shocked, but if you're doing it to a cheap $200 revolver its not too much of a loss if it makes aiming a bit easier.

I think you might have to make your peace with the fact that this revolver is probably intended to be fired fast and at close distance, like @Leeanda said a quick shot to get the attacking predator to bleed out is probably the most likely outcome. In my opinion and for not in game, but for real life, if I had to be out in the wild knowing predators were about, I'd not use a snub nose at all, I'd bring my 686 plus (6 in barrel) with the hottest ammo I could stand to shoot in addition to whatever rifle I'd use for hunting.

[Cattleman]

57 minutes ago, deathbydanish said:

It's too bad you can't just grind the front sight down, when I first heard of people doing that I was a bit shocked, but if you're doing it to a cheap $200 revolver its not too much of a loss if it makes aiming a bit easier.

I think you might have to make your peace with the fact that this revolver is probably intended to be fired fast and at close distance, like @Leeanda said a quick shot to get the attacking predator to bleed out is probably the most likely outcome. In my opinion and for not in game, but for real life, if I had to be out in the wild knowing predators were about, I'd not use a snub nose at all, I'd bring my 686 plus (6 in barrel) with the hottest ammo I could stand to shoot in addition to whatever rifle I'd use for hunting.

Traditionally in the American West the grinding down or complete removal of the front sight on a revolver was done more to aid in the quick draw of the pistol... Aiming was done by gut instinct and intuition after years of practice, often being fired from the hip at short range so a sight wasnt needed anyway. It was a defense weapon not a precision or tactical one

[deathbydanish]

On 7/4/2024 at 12:23 AM, Cattleman said:

Traditionally in the American West the grinding down or complete removal of the front sight on a revolver was done more to aid in the quick draw of the pistol... Aiming was done by gut instinct and intuition after years of practice, often being fired from the hip at short range so a sight wasnt needed anyway. It was a defense weapon not a precision or tactical one

That reminds me, when he was alive, did you see how fast Bob Munden was? He did a lot of trick shots, but that one where he appeared to pop two balloons on opposing sides in what sounded/looked like one shot still amazes me.

[Cattleman]

1 hour ago, deathbydanish said:

That reminds me, when he was alive, did you see how fast Bob Munden was? He did a lot of trick shots, but that one where he appeared to pop two balloons on opposing sides in what sounded/looked like one shot still amazes me.

Yeah I did I don't remwmber the name of the show but I used to watch him do trick shot on TV... Some firearms show.

[deathbydanish]

5 hours ago, Cattleman said:

Yeah I did I don't remwmber the name of the show but I used to watch him do trick shot on TV... Some firearms show.

I remember seeing him shoot a snubnose revolver upside down and hit a balloon at like 200 yards away.

I think where we are in the game with revolvers, it seems like we would be lucky to hit anything in one shot and have it not kill us.

 

 

[Cattleman]

22 hours ago, deathbydanish said:

I remember seeing him shoot a snubnose revolver upside down and hit a balloon at like 200 yards away.

I think where we are in the game with revolvers, it seems like we would be lucky to hit anything in one shot and have it not kill us.

 

 

That was one of the shots I I was thinking of as I responded previously, lol.

 

I liked the one where he balanced a Styrofoam cup on the back of his gun hand then drew and fired, hitting the cup before it could barely move.