Pickwun Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Seriously, why do I care where she went? Apparently we broke up at some point in the past, because her ambitions were more important than me. Now she's come back and cajoled me into flying my plane into a storm in the middle of the night - and of course we crashed. I'm injured, she's a doctor, and she just took off leaving me to freeze/bleed to death on the mountain. Why am I lugging around this case that she couldn't be bothered to pick up? Am I hunting her down so I can beat her to death with the case when I find her? Am I just so ungodly stupid that I deserve to just die in the wilderness anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuarian Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Because YOU aren't doing that. MACKENZIE is. You are simply playing his part. This is what the Story Mode is. Don't like it? Go play Survival Mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Pickwun said: I'm injured, she's a doctor, and she just took off leaving me to freeze/bleed to death on the mountain. That, at least, is a very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 She's got your phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBondReturns Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 37 minutes ago, JAFO said: That, at least, is a very good point. Well I assumed that they were both knocked out by the impact and he was thrown from the plane and down into the ravine. By the time she regained consciousness she had no choice but to leave the crash site even without her precious case simply to find shelter and stay alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfless Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Who killed that guy in the first cave? Was it Astrid?! And then she got her posse of felons to help burn down a schoolhouse full of innocents... Her homicidal rampage must be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 37 minutes ago, RossBondReturns said: Well I assumed that they were both knocked out by the impact and he was thrown from the plane and down into the ravine. By the time she regained consciousness she had no choice but to leave the crash site even without her precious case simply to find shelter and stay alive. That was my initial presumption too.. But on the other hand, when Will first regains consciousness, he hears Astrid telling him not to let the world beat him.. so she had to have been close by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Yet Grey Mother says something about hearing voices outside...I don't think Astrid left entirely of her own free will. She is wrapped up in something to which her case will turn out to be a key component. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingrobny Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 14 hours ago, Pickwun said: Seriously, why do I care where she went? Apparently we broke up at some point in the past, because her ambitions were more important than me. Now she's come back and cajoled me into flying my plane into a storm in the middle of the night - and of course we crashed. I'm injured, she's a doctor, and she just took off leaving me to freeze/bleed to death on the mountain. Why am I lugging around this case that she couldn't be bothered to pick up? Am I hunting her down so I can beat her to death with the case when I find her? Am I just so ungodly stupid that I deserve to just die in the wilderness anyway? I think she was abducted by the escaped prisoners, if she was on her own i don't think she would left the important box she was carrying and i don't think she would voluntarily leave Mackenzie in this helpless state, something have happend to her and i wonder what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade_grey Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Because Will Mackenzie cares about her and wants to make sure she's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixxut Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 16 hours ago, Pickwun said: Seriously, why do I care where she went? Apparently we broke up at some point in the past, because her ambitions were more important than me. Now she's come back and cajoled me into flying my plane into a storm in the middle of the night - and of course we crashed. I'm injured, she's a doctor, and she just took off leaving me to freeze/bleed to death on the mountain. Why am I lugging around this case that she couldn't be bothered to pick up? Am I hunting her down so I can beat her to death with the case when I find her? Am I just so ungodly stupid that I deserve to just die in the wilderness anyway? That's like saying: "i don't like potatoes so why why are you eating them?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuarian Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 9 hours ago, JAFO said: That was my initial presumption too.. But on the other hand, when Will first regains consciousness, he hears Astrid telling him not to let the world beat him.. so she had to have been close by. I think that was while he was out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuarian Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 3 hours ago, ingrobny said: I think she was abducted by the escaped prisoners, if she was on her own i don't think she would left the important box she was carrying and i don't think she would voluntarily leave Mackenzie in this helpless state, something have happend to her and i wonder what it is. I think she had to leave quickly because of bad weather & wolves came and found her, that's why she was running and tore her scarf. I think the prisoners found her in Milton around Day 3 when the Storm rolled in. Since she's a doctor they wanted her to help their injured inmate friends. But she's a bit hardheaded and got into a fight of something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBondReturns Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Fuarian said: I think that was while he was out. Yeah I took that as something from earlier...perhaps when they broke up...and he felt the world was crumbling around himself. "Hey...don't let this world beat you. We'll always be friends." The mind can bring forth phrases spoken in the past and apply them to the situation that you're in, while changing them subtly. "Will...will...don't let this new world beat you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingrobny Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 54 minutes ago, Fuarian said: that's why she was running and tore her scarf I forgot about the torn scarf . 54 minutes ago, Fuarian said: I think the prisoners found her in Milton around Day 3 when the Storm rolled in. Since she's a doctor they wanted her to help their injured inmate friends. But she's a bit hardheaded and got into a fight of something. Could be, i'm looking forward to episode 3 and hope we will learn more about what happend, but not too much, just enough to keep the excitement going to future episodes, right now it's a mystery and i wonder what Jeremiah's part is in all this, he said he lived off the grid, but that isn't entirely true, (without spoiling the end of episode 2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Fuarian said: I think that was while he was out. My point entirely.. no doctor would abandon an injured and unconscious person in a situation like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBondReturns Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, JAFO said: My point entirely.. no doctor would abandon an injured and unconscious person in a situation like that. No but I think our point...mine certainly....is that it it wasn't her...there at that time speaking to him. His mind remembered her, saying something to him at a different time. And her voice from the past was simply his mind taking a memory of her saying something...and he grabbed onto it...and woke back up. Because she clearly wasn't there beside him moments after he heard her voice and woke up. And until the tree fell on (what Day 4 or so) there was no way to get out of that ravine. So she clearly wasn't there when he was unconscious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I thought she was in the fuselage of the plane that was in the tree that Mckenzie found days later that was relatively intact? She moved on from there toward Milton tearing her clothing on the branch, so how can she abandon Mckenzie if he wasn't with her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuarian Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, JAFO said: My point entirely.. no doctor would abandon an injured and unconscious person in a situation like that. Well she for one couldn't get to him and two it's fucking cold out and three, she had to leave in a hurry. As to why she left her backpack and case there beats me, seems like plot armor right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuarian Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, ingrobny said: I forgot about the torn scarf . Could be, i'm looking forward to episode 3 and hope we will learn more about what happend, but not too much, just enough to keep the excitement going to future episodes, right now it's a mystery and i wonder what Jeremiah's part is in all this, he said he lived off the grid, but that isn't entirely true, (without spoiling the end of episode 2). I think he lived off the grid in fear of the apocalypse occuring. I think he's a military veteran and so is his friend Atwood. I think "Wintermute" is a military response codeword for the apocalypse occuring. But Jeremiah doesn't know the extent of it. He doesn't know that the military has no way of reaching Great Bear. He doesn't know how bad it actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuarian Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, RossBondReturns said: Yeah I took that as something from earlier...perhaps when they broke up...and he felt the world was crumbling around himself. "Hey...don't let this world beat you. We'll always be friends." The mind can bring forth phrases spoken in the past and apply them to the situation that you're in, while changing them subtly. "Will...will...don't let this new world beat you." *break you* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBondReturns Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Fuarian said: *break you* Ahh thanks...haven't played that section in a bit so that was from memory. My point still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBondReturns Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Fuarian said: Well she for one couldn't get to him and two it's fucking cold out and three, she had to leave in a hurry. As to why she left her backpack and case there beats me, seems like plot armor right there. Her backpack and case fell from the plane and she couldn't see them to get to them...and then must survive kicked in and she went looking for shelter. No plot armor needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuarian Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 46 minutes ago, RossBondReturns said: Her backpack and case fell from the plane and she couldn't see them to get to them...and then must survive kicked in and she went looking for shelter. No plot armor needed. Well they were placed there, as if she went down there, saw him but couldn't get to him and then left. Maybe she went back up to the plane to find something to get down there but got chased off by some wolves or something. That seems the most plausable. I hope Episode 3 has a 2D animated cutscene showing this. (We need more 2D animated cutscenes. Hinterland really excels there.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBondReturns Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Fuarian said: Well they were placed there, as if she went down there, saw him but couldn't get to him and then left. Maybe she went back up to the plane to find something to get down there but got chased off by some wolves or something. That seems the most plausable. I hope Episode 3 has a 2D animated cutscene showing this. (We need more 2D animated cutscenes. Hinterland really excels there.) Indeed, that works as well too. So no plot armor. Also her voice was not yelling at Will was it...so I still think the voice was his mind using a memory of her to Jog himself awake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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