Timberwolf Containers Becoming Ruined & Cannot Be Opened

[Rachael]

Bug name: Hacksaws ruin containers
 

Bug description:

If using a low-condition Hacksaw on a locked Cargo Container there is a chance the Hacksaw will break, cancelling the unlocking of the Cargo Container and the Hacksaw becomes "Ruined". If this happens the locked Cargo Container has a chance of also becoming "Ruined" meaning it cannot be accessed even using a new intact Hacksaw. 
 

OS: PC
 

Repro steps:

1) Have a single, low-condition Hacksaw in player inventory. Save game.

2) Attempt to open a locked Cargo Container in Timberwolf Mountain.

3) If the Hacksaw breaks check the Cargo Container. If the Hacksaw doesn't break quit and reload the game and repeat steps 1 to 3.

4) The Cargo Container will often have changed it's label from "(Locked)" to "(Ruined)" and be inaccessible.

Screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/th8xh imgur album.

 

Coordinates: (936.8, 472.1, 1171.7) Also in screenshot.

 

Visibility: Often. Out of 10 times the Hacksaw became "Ruined" a total of 8 times resulted in the locked Cargo Container also becoming ruined.

[cullam]

Just had this bug occur on the summit of Timberwolf Mountain, while playing Hopeless Rescue Challenge, on the latest build. 

[Timber Wolf]

Just now, cullam said:

Just had this bug occur on the summit of Timberwolf Mountain, while playing Hopeless Rescue Challenge, on the latest build. 

This is not a bug and is working as intended.  You need to be careful when using a low condition hacksaw, or you will render cargo containers unusable. 

[stapeliad]

Those hacksaws go fast... luckily they are easily repaired with some scrap metal and simple tools.  (or Quality tools).

There are also several hacksaws around the world.

[cekivi]

Welcome to the forums @Rachael 

Tough break with the hacksaw! But @Timber Wolf is right. This is not a bug. As such, post moved to Alpha feedback (because it's still good feedback). 

[sarudak]

I don't understand why it 'ruins' the container so you can't open it. What is that exactly supposed to represent happening?

[cekivi]

Destroying the innards of the lock is my guess but I always thought using a hacksaw to begin with was unthematic. The prybar should work far better. I think it's just a problem of too many tools or tools without enough options for what to do with them. 

[JAFO]

6 hours ago, cekivi said:

Destroying the innards of the lock is my guess

Except that destroying the innards of a lock is often one of the best ways to open a lock that you don't have keys for.

[cekivi]

Meh, it was either that or somehow jamming the hinges as you cut them off  

[JAFO]

1 minute ago, cekivi said:

Meh, it was either that or somehow jamming the hinges as you cut them off  

Good point.. hard to picture doing that..

[sarudak]

If you are cutting off the hinges I don't see how jamming them is an issue.

[AZHockeyNut]

I should think that the prybar would become an option to open them at this point. maybe it ruins the prybar or seriously degrades it as a trade off?

[cullam]

The hacksaw seems like a perfectly sensible way of opening these containers. But it definitely seems odd that if your hacksaw breaks halfway through, you can't just use another one and keep sawing.