use antler and fat (poll) part 2

[alone sniper]

Hi guys.
made the second part. don't forget to read a first one.

thanks.
 

[Crimson Foxx]

Its good to be able to harvest so many parts from a dead animal. Makes it feel more justified to have killed it and less waste.

[alone sniper]

yes. your right
and when NPCs come to game you need to trade with them. so  you have to harvest some valuable thing. 

[SteveP]

Did you know that the brain is used for curing & tanning the hide of animals?

http://www.native-art-in-canada.com/hidetanning.html

http://www.braintan.com/articles/furs/george1.html

Antler is good for making a punch or awl for sewing leather or working with stone. Bone is a fairly hard material and is very useful for making tools but of course, we should have an assortment in the quality toolkit. Making good use of these resources is sensible bush-craft however in TLD, it seems to be more of a slash, dine and dash game so you don't need to carry much or build up a repository of crafting stuff.

[alone sniper]

9 hours ago, SteveP said:

Did you know that the brain is used for curing & tanning the hide of animals?

http://www.native-art-in-canada.com/hidetanning.html

http://www.braintan.com/articles/furs/george1.html

Antler is good for making a punch or awl for sewing leather or working with stone. Bone is a fairly hard material and is very useful for making tools but of course, we should have an assortment in the quality toolkit. Making good use of these resources is sensible bush-craft however in TLD, it seems to be more of a slash, dine and dash game so you don't need to carry much or build up a repository of crafting stuff.

completely agree!!!!

tired of carrying unrepairable heavy tool !!!!!!!!!! 

and thanks for links!!!

[Ape88]

On ‎7‎/‎31‎/‎2016 at 11:57 PM, SteveP said:

Did you know that the brain is used for curing & tanning the hide of animals?

I actually had the opportunity to take part in tanning a hide when I was in elementary school.

Honestly though, at the moment, there are just so few options in the game and so much waste. I get that surviving is supposed to be a challenge, but once you find somewhere comfortable to stay, stockpile a good deal of food and water and firewood, that leaves a lot of time that is empty.

[Wastelander]

I'm all for actual sinews for bows - in German, the word for the bowstring and a sinew are the same (Sehne, the bowstring is sometimess called Bogensehne but literally translated to bow sinew). 

[Boston123]

11 minutes ago, Wastelander said:

I'm all for actual sinews for bows - in German, the word for the bowstring and a sinew are the same (Sehne, the bowstring is sometimess called Bogensehne but literally translated to bow sinew). 

If sinew gets wet, it will stretch at the least, and break at the worst. Same thing with dried gut. 

This is why any serious "primitive" archer will have more than one bowstring. I, for instance, carry around 3.

[Wastelander]

Just now, Boston123 said:

If sinew gets wet, it will stretch at the least, and break at the worst. Same thing with dried gut. 

This is why any serious "primitive" archer will have more than one bowstring. I, for instance, carry around 3.

Yep. Maybe, once running out of condition, give us a 'broken bow' item that can be fixed with a new bowstring.

[cekivi]

Welcome to the forums @Ape88!

And yeah, in a survival situation there's no way you're letting any part of the animal go to waste. Leg bone and kidney soup anyone?

[Wastelander]

7 hours ago, cekivi said:

And yeah, in a survival situation there's no way you're letting any part of the animal go to waste. Leg bone and kidney soup anyone?

I mentioned it in another thread, but yeah, every part of an animal can be used for something. Bone marrow for food, bones for knives, organs as additional meat... the possibilities are not endless but vast  

[alone sniper]

18 hours ago, cekivi said:

Leg bone and kidney soup anyone

We got some kidney kebab in Iran !!! (sheep kidney)

[Dirmagnos]

17 hours ago, cekivi said:

Leg bone and kidney soup anyone?

Kidney soup, right. Part of the body that processes waste and toxins. Making soup out of it in conditions without any external medical, not to mention professional, help. Pass. Il rather try my luck with parasites.

[Muk_Pile]

I voted for bones, antlers, and body fat, since I felt that these salvaged items in particular would best fill several unique and vital niche that is currently not satisfied in the game. 

Harvesting bones would provide both a compact food-source in the form of bone marrow and a hard, yet malleable substance that could be shaped into simple tools and weapons (most notable as crude, yet effective arrowheads).  Antlers could utilized in similar, yet less effective roles as bone, though I think it would be best used to craft sewing needles and fish hooks.  And body fat would not only be an excellent source of calories but could be refined into a substitute fuel for lanterns and make-shift oil lamps.  

As for the rest of the choices, I think I'd also vote for sinew if it's role for crafting bow string wasn't already fulfilled by guts.  I think we already harvest brains and tongue from carcasses under the generalized category of "Meat", though I do think including brains as a component for crafting leather / curing skins would be a great addition to the complexity and realism of the clothes manufacturing process.  And as for blood, hooves, and legs, their utility seem to be more nonessential in terms of survival, though they might prove to provide interesting activities and opportunities for mid- to end-game.

[cekivi]

3 hours ago, Dirmagnos said:

Kidney soup, right. Part of the body that processes waste and toxins. Making soup out of it in conditions without any external medical, not to mention professional, help. Pass. Il rather try my luck with parasites.

Depends on the animal. Organ meat usually has the highest nutritional content but you're right that you have to know what you're doing. There's several tell-tale indicators on whether a particular organ is edible or not. In a non survival situation I'd never eat the organs of wild game. In a survival situation it'd be foolish to pass up the calories, fats, and vitamins.

[continuity]

for me Antler and sinew are the most important.  Sinew can be used for making clothing, and antler can be used to make tools, like needles and arrow heads.

[Boston123]

3 hours ago, cekivi said:

Depends on the animal. Organ meat usually has the highest nutritional content but you're right that you have to know what you're doing. There's several tell-tale indicators on whether a particular organ is edible or not. In a non survival situation I'd never eat the organs of wild game. In a survival situation it'd be foolish to pass up the calories, fats, and vitamins.

You can literally just cut them open and check the insides of each organ. So long as they are "healthy looking" (aka, not gross, covered in weird spots, have deterioration visible, miscolored, etc), they will be perfectly safe to eat. Not to mention that in most grass-fed, and animals that feed on grass-fed animals, there will be little toxin buildup present. And, so long as you cook the food properly, there will be little threat from toxins or parasites (that is my major beef with parasites in general)

Not to mention that whatever toxins and such the animal would have consumed would have been removed from the body in the urine and wastes anyways. Does the OP know how the kidneys work? 

Really, to pass up the offal, blood, fat and marrow of an animal in a survival situation isn't just foolish; it is asinine. What would you rather do: (maybe) eat some accumulated toxins, or effectively starve to death.? Or, get scurvy, or some other nutrient deficiency?

Have fun.

I have wondered why TLD skips out on offal, fat and bone marrow for a while now.

[cekivi]

54 minutes ago, Boston123 said:

I have wondered why TLD skips out on offal, fat and bone marrow for a while now.

Probably because most people think it's gross. But, if I'm starving and living from animal to animal I'm eating everything that a deer could provide save the brains. Brains have too high a chance of interesting diseases and are needed to cure hides anyways. 

[Boston123]

9 hours ago, cekivi said:

Probably because most people think it's gross. But, if I'm starving and living from animal to animal I'm eating everything that a deer could provide save the brains. Brains have too high a chance of interesting diseases and are needed to cure hides anyways. 

Again: cost vs gain plays into it.

While there is the possibility of developing prion-based diseases from eating animal brains,  do you want to possibly develop some sort of neurological disorder some years from now ......... or do you want to starve to death this week?

Brains are high in fat and protein. They are very good to eat in a survival situation. http://www.livestrong.com/article/360367-nutrition-value-of-beef-brain/

Checking brains for diseases is much like any other organ. Bust open the skull and take a look. If it looks weird, discolored, or visibly damaged, chuck it, or more pragmatically, use it for tanning. If it "looks good", then it probably is good.