Open locked lockers with hacksaw

[ark1of712]

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Sorry if this is a double post, it's hard to slog through everyone's suggestions. Anyway, yeah.

Regards,

Ark

[Pillock]

Yeah. I don't see why we are able to cut open storage lockers form a crashed aircraft, but not the ones inside buildings. I also don't see why we can't bash the hell out of them with the heavy hammer, or even kick the hell out of them without any tool to break the door open - for a large fatigue/calorie penalty, of course.

[starfighter441]

As above.  Sawing through the hinges of a locker should be possible. As for the heavy hammer, turning the hatchet around and using the backend as a hammer should work too.

 

[illanthropist]

Just seem a lot of unnecessary programming for the dev team with sound and 1st person fx, could try blowing the lock off with the rifle, picking it with the sewing kit or fishing hook.  I'm happy with just the pry bar else if you supersede it with another tool might as well remove it from the game.  Was a bit miffed once when it broke opening a bunker locker and rendered them both useless though

Take heed if the pry bar is on it's last legs you might miss out on some goodies...

[Vhalkyrie]

The only purpose of a pry bar is to open lockers.  Well, it can be used for fishing holes, too, but even with that it has extremely little utility.  I'm sure that's the design reason, but it is somewhat amusing that our survivor is occasionally so dense.

"Well, No pry bar, so I guess I can't open this."  Ignores the heavy hammer, hacksaw, and hatchet in backpack.

[exeexe]

It could be made that if you use heavy hammer and hacksaw to open a container, the container will reveal its contents, maybe semi destroyed, like food will have been spoiled and have lower content, and items will have lower condition. Also the container could be destroyed so you cant use it as a container afterwards.

[elloco999]

Depending on how sturdy a locker is, a hammer may only dent it and not open it. The lockers we had in high school could be easily kicked in, but I've also seen lockers that looked like you'd need at least an angle grinder to get into them.

Sawing off the hinges would likely work, if the hinges are on the outside and don't have protection (dead bolts?) to prevent the door from opening even if the hinges are sawn off.

12 hours ago, starfighter441 said:

As above.  Sawing through the hinges of a locker should be possible. As for the heavy hammer, turning the hatchet around and using the backend as a hammer should work too.

Hm, should risk damaging my hatchet trying to open a locker that may contain nothing, or should I safe it for something more important like gathering firewood or skinning a carcass?

Not saying it's a bad idea but given the amount of pry bars in the game that serve hardly any other purpose I would not risk my hatchet.

5 hours ago, exeexe said:

It could be made that if you use heavy hammer and hacksaw to open a container, the container will reveal its contents, maybe semi destroyed, like food will have been spoiled and have lower content, and items will have lower condition. Also the container could be destroyed so you cant use it as a container afterwards.

Now that's a good idea! If you use a method of opening a locker that damages said locker so much it should not longer be usable as a container.

[starfighter441]

10 hours ago, Vhalkyrie said:

The only purpose of a pry bar is to open lockers.  Well, it can be used for fishing holes, too, but even with that it has extremely little utility.  I'm sure that's the design reason, but it is somewhat amusing that our survivor is occasionally so dense.

"Well, No pry bar, so I guess I can't open this."  Ignores the heavy hammer, hacksaw, and hatchet in backpack.

Car trunks as well.

[Pillock]

Maybe they could introduce more locked containers, or even whole houses, that would give the prybar more utility. Perhaps we could use them to dismantle crates and pallets as well?

[hauteecolerider]

57 minutes ago, Pillock said:

Maybe they could introduce more locked containers, or even whole houses, that would give the prybar more utility. Perhaps we could use them to dismantle crates and pallets as well?

When I'm confronted with a pallet or a crate to take apart, IRL I'm more inclined to reach for that prybar. 

Using a hatchet is kind of like lighting a cigarette with a blowtorch. Yeah, that's the way the US Army Rangers do it, but I'm not a Ranger . . . 

[illanthropist]

6 hours ago, hauteecolerider said:

When I'm confronted with a pallet or a crate to take apart, IRL I'm more inclined to reach for that prybar. 

Me too, particularly obsessive with de-nailing timber when doing demolition works, had a nail go through my foot more than once clambering in refuse skips trying to maximise the space.

[Pillock]

14 hours ago, hauteecolerider said:

When I'm confronted with a pallet or a crate to take apart, IRL I'm more inclined to reach for that prybar. 

Using a hatchet is kind of like lighting a cigarette with a blowtorch. Yeah, that's the way the US Army Rangers do it, but I'm not a Ranger . . . 

Thinking about it, I guess you'd still need to break the boards down to get the 'reclaimed wood' we have in game that can be carried in a pack and used for firewood and making snares. Just prying a crate or pallet apart would leave you with pieces too large for this.

[elloco999]

1 hour ago, Pillock said:

Thinking about it, I guess you'd still need to break the boards down to get the 'reclaimed wood' we have in game that can be carried in a pack and used for firewood and making snares. Just prying a crate or pallet apart would leave you with pieces too large for this.

The way I tend to break boards or large sticks if I find them too large and I don't care about breaking them (vs sawing if I wanted to do something with them) is to place them slanted against a wall or some other hard object and hit them with my foot half way. This way it's pretty easy to break boards into pieces without tools.

[hauteecolerider]

4 hours ago, Pillock said:

Thinking about it, I guess you'd still need to break the boards down to get the 'reclaimed wood' we have in game that can be carried in a pack and used for firewood and making snares. Just prying a crate or pallet apart would leave you with pieces too large for this.

Most pallets I've encounter break very easily so I really don't need anything more than a pry bar to break them into more manageable sizes. That said, around here, pallets are made from very soft, cheap pine. Maybe by you they're made from oak or hickory or something as hard? I also smash those slats with the end of the prybar too, though I turn my face away when I do this (due to flying splinters). 

2 hours ago, elloco999 said:

The way I tend to break boards or large sticks if I find them too large and I don't care about breaking them (vs sawing if I wanted to do something with them) is to place them slanted against a wall or some other hard object and hit them with my foot half way. This way it's pretty easy to break boards into pieces without tools.

This. Though I would say @Pillock has a point when we're breaking down larger stuff like shelves and other furniture. Then I'd use a hatchet once I've removed the nails with a pry bar. 

[illanthropist]

2 hours ago, elloco999 said:

place them slanted against a wall or some other hard object and hit them with my foot half way.

Don't you just hate it when your overly optimistic and you get that horrid vibration all the way up your leg

[cekivi]

Note that you don't need to break down the wood at all if you're outdoors or using a fire barrel. You can just add wood as necessary. Breaking down is really only essential if you're planning to make kindling or have to fit inside a stove or fireplace. I've lit many an outdoor fire with larger wood. You just need to start the fire on one end and feed in the branch or log as it burns down to keep it nice and hot. 

[illanthropist]

21 minutes ago, cekivi said:

I've lit many an outdoor fire with larger wood.

It's one of my pet hates when camping friends start making the fire bigger and bigger

 

23 minutes ago, cekivi said:

You just need to start the fire on one end and feed in the branch or log as it burns down to keep it nice and hot. 

Done that once with a chimnea and a fishing stool as was too lazy to chop a timber fence post.

[cekivi]

Larger doesn't have to mean bigger. A nice big chunk of hardwood put over hot coals will keep the fire going nice and slow for hours.

After Googling chimnea I suspect that the sight of it with a fence post sticking out the top must have been interesting to say the least

 

[illanthropist]

1 minute ago, cekivi said:

After Googling chimnea I suspect that the sight of it with a fence post sticking out the top must have been interesting to say the least

Haha side fed hence the fishing stool to keep it propped as it burnt, seen rocket stoves that use a similar method.

[cekivi]

That makes so much more sense!

 

[elloco999]

21 hours ago, illanthropist said:

Don't you just hate it when your overly optimistic and you get that horrid vibration all the way up your leg

Yes I do hate it when that happens

But experience has thought me what I can or can't break this way so that doesn't happen as often as you might think. But the boards of a pellet are really no issue as they are made of very soft wood like @hauteecolerider already mentioned.